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Thank you for helping me build my Streamline Trailer

As the title of the thread shows, I need some help.

I want to build an exterior accurate (more or less) for a streamliner caravan.

More specifically, this one...



Check this pic, in front of Our Belgian's favourite national monument...


It would be cool if I could do the exterior and stuff, but I m' not into sadomasochism...

Anybody any idea where to start?

I won't have any trouble doing the chassis and the wheels, of course...

the thing is... the belly of the beast, how to do that?


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It's an awesome idea, no?

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Old 03-21-2007, 07:34 PM
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A litre of Alclad chrome should do it.
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Re: Thank you for helping me build my Streamline Trailer

Just buy the one that the Franklin Mint made and paint it with Alclad II

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...irstream&gbv=2
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Re: Thank you for helping me build my Streamline Trailer

Yikes...That franklin stuff above is scary...
You could use a Kombi as a base. Is it called Kombi? The VW bus?....And you could modfy it until it looks like it...Just an Idea!
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Re: Thank you for helping me build my Streamline Trailer

You could contact kurtl and ask him about the way he build the moving van
(I don't recall if it was posted here, but he is an AF member). For building the roof section he used a technique similar to the techniques ship and plane builders utilize.

Oh well....I might post a link or a sketch tomorrow, but now I'm off to bed.
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Re: Thank you for helping me build my Streamline Trailer

Make a master shape in clay, cast a buck and then vacu-form over the buck?

I hope you do this Oli (before Revell release it), the idea is terrific!

Will the Sultan be hooking this to the back of his Ferrari?
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Re: Thank you for helping me build my Streamline Trailer

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Will the Sultan be hooking this to the back of his Ferrari?
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Re: Thank you for helping me build my Streamline Trailer

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Make a master shape in clay, cast a buck and then vacu-form over the buck?
I was thinking the same, but making the buck from wood. The hard part in any case would be all the rivet and panel lines. Perhaps even making the shape from a wooden block, and then epoxying thin sheet styrene to it, particularly to the ends where the trailer is made from pie cuts of aluminum?

Were I going to do it, though, I would probably cut thick sheet styrene out in sections to make bulkheads for the length of the trailer, then use medium weight styrene for the sides, roof and the ends. I would then use thin styrene for the pie cuts, and also laminate the thin styrene over the sides, roof, and ends. The reason I would use the second layer of thin styrene would be so that I could create the panel lines like the real thing, and with use of a pounce wheel, could make the rivet detail.

If you really wanted to make it look authentic, you could substitute thin aluminum sheet for the thin styrene and do it the same way. The metal would possibly be a little easier to form than the plastic, at least without the application of heat.

These Airstreams were very simply constructed, and you might have the easiest time just copying how they actually were made. They were made just like aircraft - a framework held together by the skin. If you can build the frame, skinning it shouldn't be hard. Something like this should use a minimum of putty. All sheet stock. It'd take some finagling but should be well possible.

The doors and windows should be the easy part for a fellow like you.
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Re: Thank you for helping me build my Streamline Trailer

Hmm, thanks everybody for the good advice...

But, what i really want, is to make a quick model from this, to do some prints on, nothing fancy, just something really fast... I wonder how? I like all the ideas, but the one for the thermo or vacuuforming is not an option, due to the deadline in one month (and i have still to build the trailercar ! )

I might do it out of styrene... a few well bent sheets over styrene structureframe will maybe do the trick?

And also, the franklin mint stuffy is a bit expensive... wouldn't mind paying 50 euros for it tho...

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Hmm, thanks everybody for the good advice...

But, what i really want, is to make a quick model from this, to do some prints on, nothing fancy, just something really fast... I wonder how? I like all the ideas, but the one for the thermo or vacuuforming is not an option, due to the deadline in one month (and i have still to build the trailercar ! )

I might do it out of styrene... a few well bent sheets over styrene structureframe will maybe do the trick?

And also, the franklin mint stuffy is a bit expensive... wouldn't mind paying 50 euros for it tho...

Olivier
Seems to me that Willimo's advice is the best so far.
Failing that you could cut up a dishwash detergent bottle like we used ot at school....
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Re: Thank you for helping me build my Streamline Trailer

Oli: to me the right idea is to do it by a wooden "aircraft" frame and riveted thin alu panels... awesome idea BTW
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Re: Thank you for helping me build my Streamline Trailer

Gio!
That's not a bad idea, but sadly, i will have to make this rather quickly, it's for a project of mine, so just the rough shape will do... I am thinking, rather incredibly, that Stevenski is right, i might use a bottle as a base and put some styrene around it, who knows, it might even work


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Re: Thank you for helping me build my Streamline Trailer

First, your first photo in the thread covers the new embedded ad in the first post. I'm going to come up with an image as a pre-signature in my threads that covers up the spammage that Igor foists on us

If you want fast, here's how I would do it.

1. Layout plans in 1/24 scale. Make copies.

2. Build it "solid", use balsa or basswood and shape it to match the plans

3. Prime/fill/prime/fill/prime/fill etc. until the surface is smooth, then paint, or use bare metal foil.

Or...

2A. Build an interior framework and apply wood or styrene planks and build it like a ship or boat. Shape planks by sanding to match plans.

3. Prime/fill/prime/fill/prime/fill etc. until smooth, then paint. Or use bare metal foil.

You'll likely never find that Franklin Mint piece for 50 Euros. They're usually $250 and up.
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Thanks ZZ!

I have no idea what you mean by ads. I am an avid adblock - plugin user for firefox, so no hassle!


But you're right, it has to be rather fast, no interior, just exterior, to test some graphic designs on in real life and to give some extra to a presentation I have to give...
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Ah, the fabled land blimp. I fear that lurch I just felt was AF taking one more step towards dividing again, adding a WIP- Winnebagos & Motorhomes section.

I would combine Bob's methods.

1. Layout the plans in 1/24, make copies, etc.

2. Make it in solid wood (balsa or bass), probably doing it in half sides.

3. Cover the wood with sheet styrene, sticking it down with thick CA. Fill & sand. Then you can scribe on panel lines, rivets and crap. You'll be peeling CA off of your fingers for weeks.

4. Forget the alclad- cover it in BMF! Your wife will then be able to check her lipstick in it.

Framework and planking is a great way to go about making a lightweight structure, but for a project like this it offers few other advantages- just alot more designing and work.
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