Coverting automatic to stick

[meinsla]

I talking to guy about maybe doing some performance modding on my 2005 Cav and he said don't bother with an automatic. Is this good advice? What would it take for me to convert my auto to a manual? Or cost me to have someone do it for me?

[Lefix]

Manuals are more fun to drive, but a auto can win a manual of the same car in a race.

[Derk_eliso]

plus, if you have an auto,they make nifty little devices you can add to your car to make your shifts shorter and harder.

[jakegday]

Originally Posted by Lefix

but a auto can win a manual of the same car in a race.

thats not true, in fact its the exact opposite, a manual would win over an automatic if everything else about the car was identical, its all about the gear ratio, since the manual has 1 or 2 more gears then an auto, it can have higher gear ratios, which allows you to make it to your redline (your engines peak horsepower) sooner

heres an example, lets say you have an auto floored in 1st gear, when it gets to 6000rpms it will shift into second gear and go back down to 4000 rpms, with a manaul it would only go back down to maybe 4500-4800rpms, and since your engine obviously makes more power at 4500 then it does at 4000, the advantage is plain as day......




as for the "nifty little devices" they make the exact same thing for manuals, its called a short throw shifter

[Cl0ak]

Better off buying a car with a stick shift than spending all that money converting your auto cavalier to a stick shift. The cost and the headache isn't worth it in my opinion.

[meinsla]

Originally Posted by Cl0ak

Better off buying a car with a stick shift than spending all that money converting your auto cavalier to a stick shift. The cost and the headache isn't worth it in my opinion.

The hell am I gonna do with two cavaliers? I just bought my first one.

[shakewell]

Originally Posted by jakegday

a manual would win over an automatic if everything else about the car was identical, its all about the gear ratio, since the manual has 1 or 2 more gears then an auto, it can have higher gear ratios, which allows you to make it to your redline (your engines peak horsepower) sooner

I agree with you in theory, but you have to remember that the manual is dependent on the driver's skill and an automatic only needs a heavy object on the accelerator pedal.

[Derk_eliso]

scratch that, it is ALL depentant on the driver's skill. if he messed up the launch you're f'ed, if you miss a shift you're f'ed, and so on and so on...

[Lefix]

Plus, although a manual might win in a "long" race, in a 1/4 mile drag, autos shift way faster and accelerate faster than a manual can, computer > human brain, sorry...

And after you get your computer tuned and chipped, they will be able to hit the red line as well. autos are killing machines...

[Cl0ak]

Originally Posted by meinsla

The hell am I gonna do with two cavaliers? I just bought my first one.

Sell it and buy something else maybe?

[Lances133]

...here goes another auto vs manual thread

[CavLCD128]

Originally Posted by Lefix

Manuals are more fun to drive, but a auto can win a manual of the same car in a race.

was that english?

lol...Automatic has stronger transmission, and will ultimately (sp) shift perfectly every time.

an auto with a Shift + will defintally own a manual with just a STS...so no, there not the equilivent (sp)

[CavLCD128]

Originally Posted by meinsla

I talking to guy about maybe doing some performance modding on my 2005 Cav and he said don't bother with an automatic. Is this good advice? What would it take for me to convert my auto to a manual? Or cost me to have someone do it for me?

what engine do you have? if you have the 2.4L or the 2.2L OHV, dont bother working on it...the 2.2L Eco however is a very nice engine and keeping it as an auto would definitally prove beneficial for you...

[Stealth Cav]

Originally Posted by Derk_eliso

plus, if you have an auto,they make nifty little devices you can add to your car to make your shifts shorter and harder.

Where can I get one of these for my auto???

[Derk_eliso]

if you have a 4 speed auto then you can go with the B&M Shiftplus... it only works on 4-speed autos, if you have the hydraulic 3-spd... like mine GRRRR then you can't use this...

http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...idproduct=1136

try that..