Okay guys help me out here

[Gotian]

My girl and I were searching around for cars last night and we came down to 3 cars, a 2000+ Celica GT-S, a 2004 Redline and a FC. She likes all 3 cars, reason why the FC is there is cause we can pay for the car in full, if i sell the jetta and we would pay the least on insurance for it. as for the celica and redline, both cars that we are looking at are going for 11k but the celica is a 2000 and has 68k miles while the redline has 38k. All 3 are manual.

I need some advise so could you guys give me your opinions?

[-Jayson-]

redline all the way, then your girl and musashis girl can go cruizing together. Plus it will prolly beat your RX8

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by -Jayson-

redline all the way, then your girl and musashis girl can go cruizing together. Plus it will prolly beat your RX8

i dont care if it could beat the 8 or not, the 8 is more car than the redline is, FWD isnt as fun anymore. Anyways, I like the redline and celica just like my girl does, i almost bought both of those cars in the past. Wouldve had the redline instead of the jetta, but if i did buy it then i wouldnt have the rx-8 now and my girl wouldnt have a car. But whatever we get both of us will be using, Im just trying to get the goods and bads of both from people who own the cars (or equivellent of it)

[xXxRocker5150]

I'd say the redline... it's a domestic, so insurance'll prolly be cheaper, as well as the parts for it... it's a pretty kick ass sleeper too.

[Chiquae07]

fc is great, but does she really have the time to wait to let the rotary warm up? or have to move the car for garage space? things like these mean you have to run the rx at least till it warms up and really drive it to avoid the quick start up quick turn off flooding.

edit - are you planning on doing the cooling mods for the fc? just the mods to keep the rotary from overheating? i know that in its stock configuration, heat was a big problem. i cant exactly say what is exactly needed to be done to the fc so keep it from over cooling. if i'm not mistaken, i believe it had to do with the stock exhaust.

i personally would say the celica, or the redling. make her drive each one, and see which one she likes better, for blind spots, how the clutch and shifter throw feels. some cars just are better looking at than to actually drive.
i found that out with the 01 maxima. i liked the features, how it looked, the increase of power, but hated the shifter throw, hated the body roll, hated the blind spot that i got, when driving the sentra i diddnt have.

edit - also the 00-01 celica is in big demand, since of the higher revline than of the other years. that ecu is basically gold to to other celica guys, that ecu also allows you to un 87 octane instead of the 91 with the addition of a knock sensor or something. im sure vip09 could give you all the details on that. check what year it is, basically.

[Gotian]

Well As far as insurance goes, i got the redline and celica quoted and the price is exactly the same, down to the penny as i will be paying when I renew my policy as if i were to keep my jetta, so insurance is not an issue.

[clawhammer]

I'd get the Celica. You get great looks (I HATE the way the Redline looks), great high-revving engine (fun!), 6speed tranny, pretty good gas mileage and Toyota reliability

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by clawhammer

I'd get the Celica. You get great looks (I HATE the way the Redline looks), great high-revving engine (fun!), 6speed tranny, pretty good gas mileage and Toyota reliability

true it does have good reliability, but no warranty, where as the redline still has 2 years of factory warranty (5 years 100,000 warranty).

[jeepgclwj]

Originally Posted by Gotian

true it does have good reliability, but no warranty, where as the redline still has 2 years of factory warranty (5 years 100,000 warranty).

I say 2 year warranty. You can get over the looks of the car because after owning it it would start to look alot better to you. When I got my GTP I def. didnt want red and was kinda embarrased when I got it, but after washing it a couple times I now love red.

Redline FTW....I have been trying to get the old lady to look at one in person instead of online because we have sold her car and it wont be long now and she gets something new.

5 year warranty, 100,000 miles and boosted FTW

[clawhammer]

Originally Posted by Gotian

true it does have good reliability, but no warranty, where as the redline still has 2 years of factory warranty (5 years 100,000 warranty).

If you mod it, warranty may be gone.

Also, would you rather have your car get repaired for free, or would you rather not have problems at all?

[-The Stig-]

Why does she need such a hyped up car? Why can't she drive something cheap and normal like a basic 4-door sedan. I mean, does it have to be supercharged?

To be honest Gotian, judging by your past posts and knowing your financial history. I'd say it's best to just suck it up and get a cheap car for her to drive. No reason to finance two cars.

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by -The Stig-

Why does she need such a hyped up car? Why can't she drive something cheap and normal like a basic 4-door sedan. I mean, does it have to be supercharged?

To be honest Gotian, judging by your past posts and knowing your financial history. I'd say it's best to just suck it up and get a cheap car for her to drive. No reason to finance two cars.

Thing is she doesnt want to get a basic boring 4 door sedan. doesnt have to be supercharged, she told me she wanted something that she would enjoy driving and thats why we came with those 2 cars. as for getting something cheap just to pay off, I did think abou that, thats why i said the previous model celica's cause she loved the one i had, but then after speaking with my dad and musashi it occured to me, if i get one that i can pay off right away it will most likely

1) have a ton of miles on the car talking 100,000+
2) in those 100,000+ miles who knows how much crap the car has taken in.
3) Ive had experiences with cars that had high milage that I didnt put on and that didnt go too well and actually made me spend more money on the car than I bought it for.

The other thing about my financial situation is that it's pretty good and stable, and if i sell the jetta and get a car for 11k I would be paying the same amount, or probably less, monthly than I am paying for the jetta right now. Since i could sell the jetta for 10k or even 9K I would be over what I owe the bank and use that money, plus the income tax money I am getting now(just did my taxes) to put for a bigger down payment on the newer car than when I bought my jetta. (I put 2k down on the jetta and financed 9K and now I owe 7K left after having it for a year.) Financing isnt a problem since I have close relations with my bank. Also another note is that my insurance dropped $1,000 since I turned 21 so that's a huge difference in my monthly bills. (I was paying 590 for insurance now Im going to be paying 250, roughly, for the 2 cars that I have assuming they both have physical damage.) So to me getting rid of the jetta and getting another car of equal value where I will be paying less monthly is a good financial move, when already considering I would be spending less money on insurance rates with no matter what car I get to replace the jetta.

I appreciate your concern about my financials, but I asked for your opinion on which car to get and why you would choose that one, so please give me your opinion cause I would really like the opinion of a former GM guy who also play with japanese cars.

[2000LS1Z28]

Originally Posted by -The Stig-

Why does she need such a hyped up car? Why can't she drive something cheap and normal like a basic 4-door sedan. I mean, does it have to be supercharged?

To be honest Gotian, judging by your past posts and knowing your financial history. I'd say it's best to just suck it up and get a cheap car for her to drive. No reason to finance two cars.

Ehh, I gotta agree with Matt. I mean, I know you love your girl and all, but you two aren't married yet man. You're going off buying her a car and stuff, and she is being picky about it??????!!!!!!!! Ehh, I dunno man. She's a new driver, and gonna most likely smack up the car a little bit. If you were daddy warbucks you could go off and pay for her to drive a viper, but she really doesn't need that, and you don't have the finances to afford it anyways.

Tell her to look for a car within a price range you can afford. You're the one paying for it, not her, or atleast that is how you are making it sound.

Gosh, reading these posts make me wanna stay single J/K

[clawhammer]

Originally Posted by Gotian

Thing is she doesnt want to get a basic boring 4 door sedan. doesnt have to be supercharged, she told me she wanted something that she would enjoy driving and thats why we came with those 2 cars. as for getting something cheap just to pay off, I did think abou that, thats why i said the previous model celica's cause she loved the one i had, but then after speaking with my dad and musashi it occured to me, if i get one that i can pay off right away it will most likely

1) have a ton of miles on the car talking 100,000+
2) in those 100,000+ miles who knows how much crap the car has taken in.
3) Ive had experiences with cars that had high milage that I didnt put on and that didnt go too well and actually made me spend more money on the car than I bought it for.

The other thing about my financial situation is that it's pretty good and stable, and if i sell the jetta and get a car for 11k I would be paying the same amount, or probably less, monthly than I am paying for the jetta right now. Since i could sell the jetta for 10k or even 9K I would be over what I owe the bank and use that money, plus the income tax money I am getting now(just did my taxes) to put for a bigger down payment on the newer car than when I bought my jetta. (I put 2k down on the jetta and financed 9K and now I owe 7K left after having it for a year.) Financing isnt a problem since I have close relations with my bank. Also another note is that my insurance dropped $1,000 since I turned 21 so that's a huge difference in my monthly bills. (I was paying 590 for insurance now Im going to be paying 250, roughly, for the 2 cars that I have assuming they both have physical damage.) So to me getting rid of the jetta and getting another car of equal value where I will be paying less monthly is a good financial move, when already considering I would be spending less money on insurance rates with no matter what car I get to replace the jetta.

I appreciate your concern about my financials, but I asked for your opinion on which car to get and why you would choose that one, so please give me your opinion cause I would really like the opinion of a former GM guy who also play with japanese cars.

Ask yourself the following questions. (Don't post them here, just think about them)

1. Do you have 6 months worth of income saved up in highly liquid form (aka savings account)
2. Are you currently saving at least 20% of your income for retirement and crap?
3. Is your income likely to significantly increase over the next year or two?

[turtlecrxsi]

You probably don't care what I think. But since I've owned both foreign and domestic I'm going to say my piece anyway. Whether your girl is a good driver or not is not the issue so I'm not going to get on that kick. It's obvious that you both want to share a sweet ride. But I must agree with Matty that getting a supercharged car is probably not necessary. You already have an RX8 which IMO is a pretty badass vehicle and a lot of us wouldn't mind owning one. Of course, if I had one it would be squeaky clean and spend it's nights in a climate controlled garage. Warranties are great but you get the mod-bug and kiss that sweet warranty goodbye. I'm sure a dealership mechanic will easily tell if boost was raised or a pulley was swapped on a supercharged vehicle. I'm not trying to discourage you just trying to add some words of caution. If you can afford it then do it.