Nürburgring Nordschleife: Would the McLaren F1 ever be able to beat Koenigsegg CCX?

[Gustav]

The most demanding track there is in the world.

Since the CC-R was one second slower than the Zonda F at 7.34 and that was at only +4 celsius with minimal grip. Four seconds after the Carrera GT, but that time was set in the summer with much better grip.

Recoeded 0-200 km/h time was 9,6 s, anyone have the specs for the McLaren F1? And that is with a top speed and gearign that is higher than the McLaren F1

Speed at Döttinger Höhe:

CC-R: 313 km/h
Carrera GT: 294 km/h
Mercedes SL-R: 292 km/h

[hurstg01]

Originally Posted by Gustav

The most demanding track there is in the world.

Since the CC-R was one second slower than the Zonda F at 7.34 and that was at only +4 celsius with minimal grip. Four seconds after the Carrera GT, but that time was set in the summer with much better grip.

Recoeded 0-200 km/h time was 9,6 s, anyone have the specs for the McLaren F1? And that is with a top speed and gearign that is higher than the McLaren F1

Speed at Döttinger Höhe:

CC-R: 313 km/h
Carrera GT: 294 km/h
Mercedes SL-R: 292 km/h

Slightly o/t but there are videos somewhere (youtube?) of #040 doing parts of a lap....

[Thorst13]

Originally Posted by Gustav

The most demanding track there is in the world.

Since the CC-R was one second slower than the Zonda F at 7.34 and that was at only +4 celsius with minimal grip. Four seconds after the Carrera GT, but that time was set in the summer with much better grip.

Recoeded 0-200 km/h time was 9,6 s, anyone have the specs for the McLaren F1? And that is with a top speed and gearign that is higher than the McLaren F1

Speed at Döttinger Höhe:

CC-R: 313 km/h
Carrera GT: 294 km/h
Mercedes SL-R: 292 km/h

Gustav, seriously you need to stop trolling in disguise in the McLaren forum.
I love the Koenigsegg myself but will always like the F1 more because of other factors than top speed and acceleration. No one here really cares about how much better the Koenigsegg is performancewise as 99% of us would choose an F1 over the 'Egg every day!
Every time you post here you post simply to put out the fact that the Koenigsegg can surpass the F1 in many ways. We are aware over this and just don't care because the McLaren F1 is something else than the 'Egg at this point in history. It's a superbreed way ahead of it's time, while the 'Egg is a reflection of todays technology, not ahead of it's time in any way but still awesome. If you want too debate about the fastest car, challenge in the Veyron section and I'm sure you'll get more than enough to talk about.

[mr bridger]

Originally Posted by Thorst13

Gustav, seriously you need to stop trolling in disguise in the McLaren forum.
I love the Koenigsegg myself but will always like the F1 more because of other factors than top speed and acceleration. No one here really cares about how much better the Koenigsegg is performancewise as 99% of us would choose an F1 over the 'Egg every day!
Every time you post here you post simply to put out the fact that the Koenigsegg can surpass the F1 in many ways. We are aware over this and just don't care because the McLaren F1 is something else than the 'Egg at this point in history. It's a superbreed way ahead of it's time, while the 'Egg is a reflection of todays technology, not ahead of it's time in any way but still awesome. If you want too debate about the fastest car, challenge in the Veyron section and I'm sure you'll get more than enough to talk about.

if there is an interloper in the midst, for his/her benefit, i SERIOUSLY doubt an "egg" would see which way an F1GTR went around the nurburgring, all IMHO of course!... Mr B.....ps/ NOT the worlds biggest egg fan for reasons explained on other posts (think along the lines of many swedish spanners reqd!!)

[Gustav]

Can we discuss this in a factual manner? Thanks And, yes I have no doubt that you guys would chosoe the slower McLaren F1.

I actually don't think the Veyron would be magnificent on the Ring, too heavy.

So what is the tiem of the McLaren F1 on the ring?

Originally Posted by Thorst13

Gustav, seriously you need to stop trolling in disguise in the McLaren forum.
I love the Koenigsegg myself but will always like the F1 more because of other factors than top speed and acceleration. No one here really cares about how much better the Koenigsegg is performancewise as 99% of us would choose an F1 over the 'Egg every day!
Every time you post here you post simply to put out the fact that the Koenigsegg can surpass the F1 in many ways. We are aware over this and just don't care because the McLaren F1 is something else than the 'Egg at this point in history. It's a superbreed way ahead of it's time, while the 'Egg is a reflection of todays technology, not ahead of it's time in any way but still awesome. If you want too debate about the fastest car, challenge in the Veyron section and I'm sure you'll get more than enough to talk about.

[Gustav]

I am talking the road version of the McLaren F1, as with the CCX. CCX can have parkk distance sensors and more

Originally Posted by mr bridger

if there is an interloper in the midst, for his/her benefit, i SERIOUSLY doubt an "egg" would see which way an F1GTR went around the nurburgring, all IMHO of course!... Mr B.....ps/ NOT the worlds biggest egg fan for reasons explained on other posts (think along the lines of many swedish spanners reqd!!)

[Le Man]

Gustav, got bored on your own forum? not much going on there as far as I can see.

The fact that a k.........egg will probably not complete many laps of the Ring or travel from London to the south of France, without breaking down does not come into it. Something wealthy people will not tolerate!!

Lap times are for racing and top speed is of total irrelevance, not unless you are a little school boy.

Has the k........egg won the LeMan 24 hours yet? and can it cosset two passengers and their luggage in comfort? To me the k.......egg is nothing more, than a better looking Ultima. Another car which can out perform a road F1 on one or two things. But as a complete vehicle to surpass the F1, IT HAS TO DO THIS ON ALL COUNTS. Something the k......egg will never be able to do.

[mini magic]

Originally Posted by Gustav

Can we discuss this in a factual manner? Thanks And, yes I have no doubt that you guys would chosoe the slower McLaren F1.

I love how you added this. We care, really we do because its all about speed, right? Nevermind the other qualities of a car...

[Gustav]

Actually it is at an all time high and we did this event, Il ltry to get a Koenigsegg vs Zonda vs McLaren F1 next time

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=81321

Will be fun to see how the F1 will behave

"will probably", well you don't know, just speculation

Are lap times of irellevance? It is the best way to compare how a sportscar can perform is the Nordschleife, welcoem to reality

Originally Posted by Le Man

Gustav, got bored on your own forum? not much going on there as far as I can see.

The fact that a k.........egg will probably not complete many laps of the Ring or travel from London to the south of France, without breaking down does not come into it. Something wealthy people will not tolerate!!

Lap times are for racing and top speed is of total irrelevance, not unless you are a little school boy.

Has the k........egg won the LeMan 24 hours yet? and can it cosset two passengers and their luggage in comfort? To me the k.......egg is nothing more, than a better looking Ultima. Another car which can out perform a road F1 on one or two things. But as a complete vehicle to surpass the F1, IT HAS TO DO THIS ON ALL COUNTS. Something the k......egg will never be able to do.

[Gustav]

Thanks Why isnt there a time of LcLaren F1 on Nordschleife? Kind of like the Enzo, Ferrari wont allow it to be tested there

Originally Posted by mini magic

I love how you added this. We care, really we do because its all about speed, right? Nevermind the other qualities of a car...

[hurstg01]

Originally Posted by Gustav

Are lap times of irellevance? It is the best way to compare how a sportscar can perform is the Nordschleife, welcoem to reality

See the little 'tick' with ABC in it when you reply to a post? Welcome to spell check

[Gustav]

Actually, whee is it?

Originally Posted by hurstg01

See the little 'tick' with ABC in it when you reply to a post? Welcome to spell check

[mini magic]

Who cares? Seriously. Does it really matter that much? Truth is the McLaren would probably win even though it is more than a decade old. Good work Koenigsegg...

/thread

[Gustav]

Yes it does matters because it is interesting that the so sure Murray whgo cirizies everythign have not set a time wiht the supercar.

Originally Posted by mini magic

Who cares? Seriously. Does it really matter that much? Truth is the McLaren would probably win even though it is more than a decade old. Good work Koenigsegg...

/thread

[mini magic]