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#1
10-03-2002, 04:08 PM
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Who would win?
So some kid asked me to race today, and even though my car isnt anywhere near "race ready" i agreed to it. It turns out he drives a late 80's possibly very early 90's cadillac. Im not sure what model it is, but its looks horrible, has 4 doors, and it has a 4.5 litre v8. He was talking all kinds of smack, saying about how he has huge v8 and he'll smoke my little performance induction whatever civic. will a 4.5 litre v8 in a 3500+ pound car beat my 1.6 litre 2300 pound car? I tried looking at some older cadillacs and i found a 155 horsepower 4.5 litre v8.... which makes me want to laugh in his face if it wasnt for the 240 lbs tq. I also saw a 200 horsepower 4.9 litre, but im pretty sure he said it was 4.5, not positive though. Oh yeh, he said something about how he has a bad tranny too. I have a 98 civic ex coupe with aem cai. Is there any way he can possibly win if i drive well? If not, i might as well make $50 of this haha.
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10-03-2002, 08:48 PM
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well basically your goin to be racing the asme thing as my friend. even though it has 155hp. he'll leave you. that car has no start lag. even with my S14 i beat it by 2 cars. adn that thing raced my friends jetta 1.8T. and he smoked that 1.8 turbo by 2 cars. some kid in my friends GED class tried to pick on his caddy with a civic and he tried to cut him off. then all he had to do was just floor it and he left him like he was standing still. sorry to say it man. but civics are really slow esp in automatic. if your civic is stock and its a auto. i think he'll beat you by 5 cars. easy. my friends caddy launches soo hard by just stepping on the gas it chirps his tires, and when it shifts to second gear it chirps goin to second. and this is a automatic!!! basically how it works is becasue the older domestic throttle bodies have mechanical kick downs. so as soon as he steps on the gas, the tranny would be locks. and be ready to roll. non of that slushy automatic tranny lag here.
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#3
10-03-2002, 11:31 PM
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i have a manual. This kid says his tranny is bad too. I dont know man, i'll let you know how it turns it. I just don't see how he could possuibly beat me with 155 horses and more than 1000 pounds heavier. Maybe those guys you knew raced the 4.9 litre 200 horsepower caddy, i would say id definitly lose to that. I've also raced a pontiac bonneville that weighs a little less than the caddy but has 180 horsepower and a lower torque figure. The only time we actually raced (like lined up, no passengers) i beat him, but hes beaten me when i had passengers and stuff. He claims he can beat me if he takes off overdrive... does the caddy have an overdrive option?
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10-03-2002, 11:37 PM
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My car isnt stock, not like it matters much but i have an aem cai. I also plan on running on an almost empty tank with lower tire pressure. My tires are brand new, but nothing special, and his are nearly bald. It also looks like his rear suspension is like no existant, cause it sags really bad. this kid doesnt know shit about racing so he wont consider anything besides stomping on the gas probably. How much does gas weigh, and will running with a next to empty tank help at all?
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10-04-2002, 06:40 PM
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empty tank helps alot. and my friends is a 4.5 liters it even says it on his trunk. but i still think he can beat you. when my S14 just had a intake, and i sorta raced him. it wasn't an official one. but i gunned out and i bogged alittle. but he tore me off the line, and he stayed ahead by 1 car. and this was when he had a bad tranny. after he had it fixed and i got my exhaust. his car got faster, and my car got much much faster. now i can beat him. but before, i did add the exhaust, we use to be pretty even, and his tires are near bald too. but you never know. tell me what happens.
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10-04-2002, 06:49 PM
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heres my friend who owns the caddy speaking
bryan: i am a honda fan, but i am sorry Civic Exs are pieces of shits.. oh yea and that jetta 1.8 T that tat was talking about that i also beat by two cars smoked civic manuals. i myself have smoked civic Exs with those loud ass mods. and i wasnt even trying plus they had a head start. either way manual or not your car is just SLOW. caddy arent slow man.. and if he knows how to launch it he can probably compete with manual launches.. Tat: sorry for my friends harshness he just hates civics/
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10-04-2002, 10:35 PM
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Dude dont be a jackass. He might beat me, but my car isnt a piece of shit. It way better than these ghetto old caddys rapper wanna be's try to pimp out with gold rims and shit. My car has no rust, the suspension actually works, it will run twice as long as the caddy, and gets much better gas milage. So dont call my car a piece of shit, theres more to cars than how fast they are. And the jetta 1.8t has 150 horsepower, its not that quick, so dont think you're the shit because you beat a 150 horsepower car.
I'm guessing i'll probably lose, but if i win i'll laugh my ass off. 1.6 litre vs 4.5 litre.... man it would be great. Well i'm off to get beat right now. Car just got out off shop getting theft damage fixed, and my friend just got a supercharged bonny, so i want to see how bad he'll beat me. Maybe ill go against the caddy too, ill let you guys know. |
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10-04-2002, 10:53 PM
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haha, good stuff...honda's vs. old caddys.
Good luck in the races, man 
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10-05-2002, 01:23 AM
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No there isn't. j/k
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10-05-2002, 01:29 AM
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haha, for some cars there isnt. But being 16 and working a crap grocery job, im quite limited to how many cars i can own, and how fast i can make my daily driver. Eh, im pretty dissapointed in the bonnie... it doesnt feel any faster than my friend with the se. Although it does have some pretty cool seats that take an hour to adjust.
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10-05-2002, 01:44 PM
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 Not mine, but a nice one! I have one though, 1994 Bonneville, new vehicle section doesn't let you list more then 1 car. |
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#12
10-05-2002, 03:50 PM
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I really dont think he is going to kill you. Its going to be closer than people think, i guess it depends on how far you race
 Now if it was a mid-late 90's caddy he would smoke you. I have driven my mom's 97 sls and its pretty damn fast for a boat. 275hp and pretty close torque numbers. I believe its the 4.6ltr northstar. The sts comes with like 300hp. But since its not one of the above i think it will be closer than people think. Let us know
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10-05-2002, 04:33 PM
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whoops i guess i was wrong, 170 horses... but i rode in a 93 ssei and it didnt seem like it was much faster than the 93 se i beat. Sure it smoked the tires really easy, but i dunno, it wasnt nearly as fast as i expected. We were going to run but he doesnt have insurance yet, so we'll wait. I'm almost positive the bonnie will beat me, but im still skeptical about the caddy. I know any new caddy could smoke me, but this 155 horsepower thing + bad tranny... im not so sure. oh yeah, we'll be running the 1/4 mile... i heard the kids caddy tops out in like the 90's, so i thought about racing him a little farther, but right at 1/4 i shift into 4h, and i prob wont be able to do much at the bottom of 4th. Well enough talk, ill just have to see.
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10-05-2002, 07:18 PM
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the caddy's speedo tops out at 85mph however, when me and the rest of my friends are racing, the thing keeps up with us when we're doin over 110mph. he has no clue hes goin this fast, but he is. lolz. but anyways please post the results i'm actually pretty interested in seeing whats goin to happen here. and yes the jetta 1.8t is not 150hp. its the 02 model with 170hp. that saves it from being really slow to just slow. lolz
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10-05-2002, 08:03 PM
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im interested to, whats that new caddys stats that one you see being advertised on tv lately and jetta's are good if you get the VR6 but their still Fwd VW needs to trun their GTIs into Rwd or Awd then i would but one but intil then its going to be STi for me
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