Need input: Prevention of crime

[MonsterBengt]

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[BrodyP]

I think the root of the issues you mentioned above stems from parenting. The proper parenting from birth till you leave the house is the main building block to base your future judgments and actions upon. Someone having been brought up in a broken home treated badly with excess negativity will continue to be a negative person. These people think for themself not giving back to society but rather find ways to better them self while in some cases affecting/hurting the lives of others. I would say parenting/home life/ proper education all factor into building a positive individual who is less likely to perform the acts listed above. Of course there are always those cases that don't fit the mold but as a whole I believe what I said stands strong.

[2.2 Straight six]

i think a lot of crime stems from a lack of respect for other people's property.

if a criminal breaks into a car to steal a radio, they firstly damage the car to get inside (force door open, break window etc..) then they steal the radio. they're not respecting the fact that it's someone else's property and that someone had to pay for what was damaged and stolen.

the problem is, even if we teach these people about respecting others' property, it won't stop them stealing. if they want something, they'll take it. it doesn't matter to them that they're stealing and someone else has to pay for fix the problem, it's easy money for the criminals.

my solution: chop their hands off. how you going to steal a car radio with no hands?

[turtlecrxsi]

I agree with parenting as the building block for instilling non-violent values into an individual regardless of their culture or religious belief system. Crime takes place usually because somebody wants something badly enough that they view the person in which the crime is being committed as another object and not a person as themselves. I think this is significant. For example, when you've had a fight against an enemy as a child or as an adult when set off you just started wailing on the "enemy" and you no longer considered their feelings about the matter at that particular time. Granted, you probably ran out of breath or both got tired of fighting and if it was a friend may have even settled matters. Now we know that people can all go off the deep end at times and that is to be anticipated. However, crimes against others can be prevented by people remembering that they're human and the person they are acting upon is just as human as they are with emotions and feelings and thoughts of right and wrong. I've known good people and bad people and you really can't do anything to help the bad people because it seems that the damage is done. The good people sometimes get the shit end of the stick too. Accidental killings or self-defense is one example. But good people can also become bad simply by throwing drugs into the mix. I've known racy individuals that have teetered on the fence of good and bad and when on certain drugs they've just lost all reasoning for good. So even with the foundation of good parenting as I believe to be one of the fundamental building blocks of good behavior (or rather non-violent/criminal behavior) it really doesn't matter because people will end up doing something bad because of some foreign agent or influence. I wish I had the Modern Rhetoric text in front of me right now with the Kenneth Burke's essay about the pentad of human behavior with the fundamental terms: act, agent, agency, scene, purpose. These 5 terms can be used to analyze virtually all human behavior, whether it's right or wrong it can be analyzed to figure out why it happened.

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Act: What happened? What is the action? What is going on? What action; what thoughts?
Scene: Where is the act happening? What is the background situation?
Agent: Who is involved in the action? What are their roles?
Agency: How do the agents act? By what means do they act?
Purpose: Why do the agents act? What do they want?
Of dramatism, Burke said: "If action, then drama; if drama, then conflict; if conflict, then victimage.


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1: Burke, Kenneth. 1945. A Grammar of Motives. Berkeley: U of California P, 1969

[BrodyP]

Great point about adding drugs to the mix. I as well have seen good people go off the deep end due to excessive drug use. To them everything seems normal but you looking at them form the outside see them falling apart loosing focus and care. This all to often can lead to stealing/crimes/assault. But the drug use usually stems from other deep rooted problems they are trying to escape from.

[2.2 Straight six]

crime is a by-product of drug use.

addicts steal to get money to feed their habit.

do something to reduce the drug problem, educate people about the effects of drug and try for a decrease in drug use and therefore a decrease in drug-related crimes.

[BrodyP]

Cant do drugs with no hands - Chop them off!

[2.2 Straight six]

excellent idea. no drug user can light their lighter to fire up the crack pipe if they don't got no hands!

we should introduce more shankings for criminals too.

[MonsterBengt]

I can't do anything with specualations on reasons people. I need to know what you'd do to prevent it. Better parenting, sure, how?

[doberman_52]

Wow, we were just talking about this in psychology a little while ago. Its all in the mind, your morals are what keeps you from doing bad things. If your parents taught you right (morals), you shouldn't kill or steal. But some people do snap and kill etc. It's what you think is right. Every one's morals are slightly different so people do slightly different things. And its also with your need to survive, some people (usually poor) steal to live, to let their family live etc. These are a few reasons I believe.

Edit: I don't think there really is any way to prevent it.

[turtlecrxsi]

Originally Posted by MonsterBengt

I can't do anything with specualations on reasons people. I need to know what you'd do to prevent it. Better parenting, sure, how?

Stop watching tv and get your kid away from the video games and sit down and help them learn some US History or English Literature so they can speak proper English. EDIT: This may not deter crime but would be helpful

Or, if your kid is hanging out on the street, which street is it? Oh they're just skateboarding with some friends. Who are these friends? Which streets are they skateboarding on? I think that parents pay much less attention to their kids these days.

[2.2 Straight six]

people could be better educated on the bad effect of drugs, shown examples and such. instead of teachers saying "drugs are bad" which has no effect on stopping its use.

if you better prepare people, and educate them on what drugs can do (focusing on the bad sides) then you can help prevent those students from using drugs.

i think educating and parenting is key.

[Nicole8188]

I agree that it starts with parenting, but at the same time, some things just can't be prevented. There are certain types of criminals, like sociopaths, where the reasons for their acts of crime may be biological. You can't say that crime can be prevented by not having children.

Are you referring to any specific acts of crime, or just crime in general?

[MonsterBengt]

Originally Posted by Nicole8188

I agree that it starts with parenting, but at the same time, some things just can't be prevented. There are certain types of criminals, like sociopaths, where the reasons for their acts of crime may be biological. You can't say that crime can be prevented by not having children.

Are you referring to any specific acts of crime, or just crime in general?

All crimes, not gernerally. Every crime specifically. Give me ideas on how to prevent it. Good parenting yes, but how? Educate people in parenting? What would you guys like to see your government do to prevent it?

[BrodyP]

Government? So how can government prevent crimes? Thats too vague. They already do there best to prevent crimes by enforcing laws and employing countless amounts of police and officials, not to mention our gigantic army. Wanna stop crime go to the root go to the less then fortunate areas of the country where poverty and crime is at a high. Prevent these areas from reproducing. Like I said above alot is due to parenting. You cant be allowing children to have children. You should have to pass a test to prove that your set fit to raise a child the correct way. Child birth is so importand and special yet taken extremely for granted. I'll stop there.