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Save the Helium!!!

Okay, so the title sounds like a bit of a joke, and it is somewhat as intended as such... but really, what do you know about Helium??? Helium Helium is largely captured from Natural Gas deposits. But what do you know about natural resources??? We deplete them at staggering rates. Take for example: Coal. 'Nuff said.

But what does this have to do with Helium?? Well, if you read the rest of the article on that link, you'd see that Helium is so light and lacking density that it just keeps rising and escapes into space. Okay, so we have some chemist whip up a batch of Helium in a lab. No can do, sweetcheeks. Think of the sun, and how much energy that ball of gas gives off. That my friends is the energy of fusing 2 hydrogens into one helium. There is no way we are going to harness that technology any time in the forseeable future.

What can you do about it? Don't buy helium balloons. It's a waste of a natural resource that we CAN'T make more of. Helium has practical purposes in technology, so why should we use it all up in our human desires to see something float??? We can get the same effect from putting balloons on sticks instead of limp strings.

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That damn sun wasting hydrogen like that. Something should be done!













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That damn sun wasting hydrogen like that. Something should be done!
It's making Helium... Hydrogen we've got It just burns like MOFO when it's gaseous.
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And just what are we going to do with all the Helium we save? Suck it in and sing "In the Jungle" a zillion times?
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And just what are we going to do with all the Helium we save? Suck it in and sing "In the Jungle" a zillion times?
Perhaps it can be used to as a weight reduction device for the extremely obese.













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And just what are we going to do with all the Helium we save? Suck it in and sing "In the Jungle" a zillion times?
It has value b/c it's a noble/inert gas and it is highly non-reactive. It can be used in situations where something needs to be extremely cold, but not freeze, and due to it's largely expansive and light nature, it is at only VERY cold temperatures that helium becomes a liquid, let alone a solid.
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Damn chemistry students.Their links,just like the helium are noble/inert.Anatomy students give great link!
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It has value b/c it's a noble/inert gas and it is highly non-reactive. It can be used in situations where something needs to be extremely cold, but not freeze, and due to it's largely expansive and light nature, it is at only VERY cold temperatures that helium becomes a liquid, let alone a solid.
Lol, so again I ask, "What are we going to do with all the helium we save?"
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It has value b/c it's a noble/inert gas and it is highly non-reactive. It can be used in situations where something needs to be extremely cold, but not freeze, and due to it's largely expansive and light nature, it is at only VERY cold temperatures that helium becomes a liquid, let alone a solid.
Just to be a bit anal. Nobody has ever actually seen solid helium. The freezing point of helium is what defines absolute zero and nobody has quite made it that far. Close, but not quite.













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Just to be a bit anal. Nobody has ever actually seen solid helium. The freezing point of helium is what defines absolute zero and nobody has quite made it that far. Close, but not quite.
Um, the Kelvin scale is based off of the freezing point of HYDROGEN. :right:

But Hydrogen has been close to freezing... Problem is that the vacuum gets holes in it, and even by moving it electromagnetically, it creates too much heat to allow the temp to cause the Hydrogen to freeze.
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Lol, so again I ask, "What are we going to do with all the helium we save?"
Who knows what we might need it for... perhaps it'll serve a purpose in computer technology in the near future. I'm not entirely up to date with that sort of use, but I know it does indeed serve as some sort of aid in comp. tech.
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Um, the Kelvin scale is based off of the freezing point of HYDROGEN. :right:

But Hydrogen has been close to freezing... Problem is that the vacuum gets holes in it, and even by moving it electromagnetically, it creates too much heat to allow the temp to cause the Hydrogen to freeze.
Nope - the freezing point of helium.

Hydrogen freezes at -259.14 deg C (See
the CRC Handbook of Chmistry and Physics).
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As for Helium

I quote "At atmospheric pressure, helium becomes liquid at the lowest of all boiling points, -452o F (-269°C) (7.6° Rankin), and remains liquid down to essentially absolute zero. As the coldest known substance, helium plays an important role in cryogenic research. At 3.9° R, liquid helium exhibits super fluidity or virtually zero viscosity (Helium II), defies gravity to flow up the walls of containers, and becomes nearly a perfect heat conductor."

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What's more, is that I can't find anything on Absolute Zero in my stupid Chem book. So I have no defining evidence in my hands either way. How crappy is that? A chemistry book with no true definition of Absolute Zero. I'd admit I'm full of shit if I could find the evidence in my book...

Only thing is that my book goes against that second website you gave. Helium doesn't displace air (sic. bottom of page: Helium as asphyxiant) Because Helium doesn't displace air, the balloons we use float. Liquefying, maybe, but again, I must say that the whole "displaces air" is a bit of a misnomer since it does everything to NOT displace our Nitrogen-heavy atmosphere, therefore it would escape rather than build. I am having mad crazy issues with these little dealies.
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Only thing is that my book goes against that second website you gave. Helium doesn't displace air (sic. bottom of page: Helium as asphyxiant) Because Helium doesn't displace air, the balloons we use float. Liquefying, maybe, but again, I must say that the whole "displaces air" is a bit of a misnomer since it does everything to NOT displace our Nitrogen-heavy atmosphere, therefore it would escape rather than build. I am having mad crazy issues with these little dealies.
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