New SE-R + SE-R Spec V

[ProZach626]

I was just wondering if anyone has seen this. If you haven't, here is some info on the 07 SE-R and SE-RSpec v.
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/nissan-...v-ar16849.html

[fugiot]

Sweet! A higher-revving, 200hp QR25.

Dunno about the looks though.....hmmm.

[ProZach626]

Originally Posted by fugiot

Dunno about the looks though.....hmmm.

yeah I hear ya. I don't know what they were talking about when they said "a sporty look". Just looks akward.

[nismo_pilot]

looks like ill be renting a spec v from enterprise and stealin me a motor, if i bolted up my mods to the new motor id be making some actual power

[Chiquae07]

o geez. this isnt good. now they are going to want to compare th spec-v to the rsx and that market as well. i have no idea how it would do. the new looks also dont scream "sporty" to me. what is the rev limiter stuck at for the qr motor before this one? im sayin if i can rev higher than it, id prob just laugh.

[fugiot]

The 02-06 SE-R's redline was 6200rpm. Waaayyy too low for a "sport compact". Short gears + low redline =

[nismo_pilot]

yeah but if they "totally redesigned" the top end then why couldnt they get the rev up to 7250 like technosquare can? it seems like if they improved the valvesprings and valves and rods like they said they did then it should have no problem revving to 7250, which would make the thing a fucking monster, higher revving cams and a 7200 redline would make that thing rape a rsx, there would be no comparing them

[Chiquae07]

i could do that for about 600 bucks. that would be pretty equivilent to a spec-v in the 1/4 id say if i was in manual.

[nismo_pilot]

lol since i picked up a bike i havent even thought about making my car any faster, something about pulling off a wheelie from 60mph by rolling the throttle back in 5th gear just takes all the fun out of a sentra.....

[Chiquae07]

i dont blame you. ive basically given up on the auto sentra. unless anytime soon i can find the same model one but manual, looks like its all over for the sentra anyway.

[neogeon]

Originally Posted by fugiot

The 02-06 SE-R's redline was 6200rpm. Waaayyy too low for a "sport compact". Short gears + low redline =

oh stop bitching about the redline, once you consider ratios it really doesnt make a damn bit of difference. Take this for instance, the integra type R and spec v (02 anyway) have almost identical shift points mph for mph, so in the end the redline doesnt make a shit bit of difference. Why is everyone such a RPM fanboy?

[nismo_pilot]

because my bike redlines at 12k and i shift out of first at 90mph, redline is HUUUUUGE in an engine, the fact that integras make 0 ft lbs of torque means their gears will shift around the same time the specs do because they are geared lower, so the extra 2k rpm they have to play with enables them to run a lower gear to compensate for the rediculous lack of torque that a shitonda motor makes, not to mention that with the heads and displacement that a spec has if you ran the redline up to 7200 you would make another 10whp just from increased crankshaft momentum alone, it would also make the shift point around 35mph instead of 25 like it is now, which enables greater acceleration time before your first shift lowering your 60ft times at the track, seriously dude, dont post about something you have no clue about, we dont like to hear yourself talk

[fugiot]

Originally Posted by neogeon

oh stop bitching about the redline, once you consider ratios it really doesnt make a damn bit of difference. Take this for instance, the integra type R and spec v (02 anyway) have almost identical shift points mph for mph, so in the end the redline doesnt make a shit bit of difference. Why is everyone such a RPM fanboy?

Yeah, but the Integra has an ultra-high redline and much shorter gears than a Spec. So even with the major power disadvantage(yes, the Spec is more powerful), it manages to be much faster(15.4 vs 14.9). Why?

Seeing as how both cars weigh about the same, it's because the redline is a good 2000rpm higher in the ITR. This means Honda was able to mate it with much shorter gears resulting in more power getting to the ground, while maintaning a reasonable peak mph in each gear.

58mph@6200rpm in the Spec
vs
58mph@8400rpm in the ITR

You tell me redline doesn't matter...

[ProZach626]

Wow, I didn't know the type R was that fast. I have beaten one before by about half a car length probably around 100 mph. It was a damn good race, but maybe that guy just put a type R badge on his car. Hmmmmmm

[fugiot]

Type-R's are no joke, but they are also extremely rare. More than likely, he just put a Type-R wing and badge on his GS-R.