Exhaust???

[Vipey1337]

So I got two new tires instead of four to save money for an exhaust system potentially. I didn't really NEED four new tires so I jsut got two. Two goodyear assurance tripletreads like xero because it's fun to copy off of the elite

Anyway, I was thinking... is it possible to just order a Borla muffler and have a shop do a custom cat-back exhaust setup off of that? And what borla would I even be looking for? going to go 2.5" setup (preferrably dual) but I don't know which one to look for...

If I can't find a borla muffler for my grand am, I'll settle with the flowmaster 80

Thanks guys!

OH BTW... do exhaust tips really add to the sound or are they just for show?

[Vipey1337]

http://www.borla.com/products/product_multi_detail.aspx?cat=2&type=43&desc=Unive rsal+Mufflers%2c+Tubing+%26+Hardware|Turbo+Muffler s

There are like three different mufflers that are 2.5in/2.5out. Does size matter in this isntance or is it just a sound factor? I'd probably use a Y-pipe to convert to dual exhaust too :P

[xeroinfinity]

I dont think Borla sells just the muffler. then they wouldn't make a killing off of foools who buys thier products, IMO

Tips... I just have dual 2.5" chrome rounds.
I thought about 3" but each tip side was $50

You can have to big of pipe. Like 3" would be overkill unless you had it at the track every weekend.

All the ones I have installled or seen were 2.5" from the Cat back.
The flowmater I have seems to be mellower then when I first installed it. Sounds good idling too. If I keep my foot out of it its not to bad in the city area .

[Vipey1337]

Yeah I read somewhere that too large is actually bad for your performance unless it's s/c or turboed. So I'd get 2.5" all around. ANd if I don't find borla i will totally go flowmaster becayuse I hear good things about it! From you guys and stuff. I will find something. If this all doesnt make sense it's cause I'm taking a lot of shots of vodka lol.

[xeroinfinity]

Vodka and the internet dont go good together

...from my experiance any hoo



this place is dead ...

[Vipey1337]

Originally Posted by xeroinfinity

Vodka and the internet dont go good together

...from my experiance any hoo



this place is dead ...

better than vodka and driving

[Gir-_-]

tips are really just show and sorta effect sound but not by much... I stuck with dual tip chrome to keep it simple and nice looking, didnt want like 3inch pipes on either side lol with my exhaust setup right now .. the 80series 2.5" o/d and the dual tips .. its pretty quiet, loud enough to be heard but its pretty quiet... no troubles though, when I do have enough after xmas for headers + cat.. that'll all change hehehe

[Jmoney3318]

oh the hell with it i say, forget the damn muffler... let there be Loudness!!!

[xeroinfinity]

I'd like to run open header for a day or two

[Vipey1337]

Originally Posted by xeroinfinity

I'd like to run open header for a day or two

well yeah cuz you can back your shit up hehe

[xeroinfinity]

I started it with just headers and the HF Cat.
No big mods, just the CAI and 62mm TB.

It was loud, like at the race track loud
Eyes and ears burning

[Gir-_-]

Originally Posted by xeroinfinity

I started it with just headers and the HF Cat.
No big mods, just the CAI and 62mm TB.

It was loud, like at the race track loud
Eyes and ears burning

gives me something to look forward too

did you just start it off on stock resonator&muffler w/ headers+HFCat?

just trying to get an idea how much the headers and cat are gonna open up the bigger piping I have w/ FM80...

What I have on right now its surprisingly quiet, stock headers&cat .. 2.5" catback w/ FM80series dual tip.... the pipe size gets bigger AFTER the cat... w/ some welds and the 2.5" sized down onto the original pipe after the cat & flange... where my holly straight pipe muffler clamped onto

I haveee.... the CAI (i still love it yaay) but no TB as of yet .. so expensive from pfyc.com... maybe if I have some Xmas money to spair ill use it as a discount towards the TB....

which reminds me of the 62mm MAF.... theres that one brand that starts w/ a G .. like grantanelli or something but they dont say the size.. and they have it also with 'cold air' tuning

[xeroinfinity]

No the resonator was removed before anything.
Then CAI 62mm TB, and I did have a 62mm MAF.

But it would give bad reading periodicly and would screw with performance,
so I ditched it and hav been running the stock MAF every since. It could hav be faulty right out of the box
So its pretty much a waste of $$$$


The 62mm TBs are pricey at RSM/Z-spec , isnt PFYC cheaper ?
MMS listed them for a good price, though I dont know if he actually has them for sale yet.

I have a stock TB that I am still going to try and bore out to 62-65mm.
Then I'll need to get a butterfly from another TB(like TA, V8) thats big enough.
Its just trying to keep from cutting into the IAC and TPS passages

[Gir-_-]

Originally Posted by xeroinfinity

No the resonator was removed before anything.
Then CAI 62mm TB, and I did have a 62mm MAF.

But it would give bad reading periodicly and would screw with performance,
so I ditched it and hav been running the stock MAF every since. It could hav be faulty right out of the box
So its pretty much a waste of $$$$


The 62mm TBs are pricey at RSM/Z-spec , isnt PFYC cheaper ?
MMS listed them for a good price, though I dont know if he actually has them for sale yet.

I have a stock TB that I am still going to try and bore out to 62-65mm.
Then I'll need to get a butterfly from another TB(like TA, V8) thats big enough.
Its just trying to keep from cutting into the IAC and TPS passages

pfyc.com's TB is from RSM/Z-spec, same price I think... both do the $100 core charge.. hence so high of price but luck of actually getting the TB would be from pfyc.com... they have them in inventory I believe and usually shipping is 3-5days (for me anyways, love their service). I've read alot of bad reviews of service from RSM/Z-spec, IMO I wouldnt bother with them

Good luck w/ that bore out on the TB lol

Kinda curious, what ever happen to donkeypunchperformance.com ? they had some pretty good items up for sale but the site went under updating but eh its been a few months... think they had a P&P UIM that fitted a 62MM TB straight through or something Dont remember much but it was something along those lines

[xeroinfinity]

Thiers been several sites on the net thats came and went with parts for Grand AMs.

I know thiers still is a big market for parts.
I see more and more GAs on the streets everyday.

Hum, I think I'm going to catch this colts game in tenn!