1999 RS Build.

MazdaX · #1 11-04-2006, 03:54 AM

Hey guys, New to the eclipse thing. I picked up my buddies 1999 RS eclipse with the shitty 420 A motor. It's a five speed with an exhaust package, cold air intake, strut bar, lowering springs, system, some other mods n stuff but it's just not as fast as i'd like it to be.

I was looking around some past posts and various sites on the net showing people with built 420A's carrying turbo under the hood and i am looking in that direction. I have the money to spend no more than 2K on this project but I was wondering if anyone knew of the part list I need to accomplish the turbo RS. Please help guys..and don't say buy a GSX , I'm poor lol.

gthompson97 · #2 11-04-2006, 04:37 AM

There's a DIY turbo kit on www.2gnt.com > Tech Articles, but without upgraded internals, I would only push ~6-7, and even then the motor won't last as long as it's intended to.

MazdaX · #3 11-04-2006, 09:51 AM

I'm talking about pistons, h-beams, valves and cams as well. i'l buy a used turbo setup i don't care about that but I do want nice and strong internals though and lower the compression to roughly 8.5:1 so I can push up around 8 - 10 psi without issues.

blk_srt · #4 11-04-2006, 11:12 AM

I think with a build motor it will run you more than $2k. Your going to heed to have machine work done new bearings rods pistons rings hardware then the turbo kit plus a tuning device

Thor06 · #5 11-04-2006, 12:07 PM

You will never be able to build an engine, piece together a turbo setup, and get support mods for $2000. Just wont happen. What did you get the car for?

defiancy · #6 11-04-2006, 03:15 PM

If you disasemble and assemble the motor yourself you may be able to get the motor built for 2k.

But you will just have a built motor. No turbo setup.

gthompson97 · #7 11-04-2006, 07:34 PM

For $2k, you can get JUST the motor built like defiancy said, but this does not include anything else. No fuel system, no turbo, no exhaust, nothing. Unless you find some really good deals, to get a built 420a will run you roughly $4-5k

Thor06 · #8 11-04-2006, 07:45 PM

If you want a fast car, you could probably get $4000-$5000 for the RS depending on the car then take that money plus your $2000 and get a 1g AWD. Hell, even if you didnt throw in any extra money from selling the RS, you could get a 1g AWD that would run circle around an RS with many 2-3 times as much money into it.

Burnerdominator · #9 11-04-2006, 09:12 PM

or buy a 500$ civic and take 1500$ and make it an ugly fast car. Like im gonna do hehe

gthompson97 · #10 11-04-2006, 09:23 PM

That has to be the dumbest idea I have ever heard of in all of mankind. Might as well buy a Geo and drop in a blown 454.

blk_srt · #11 11-04-2006, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gthompson97

That has to be the dumbest idea I have ever heard of in all of mankind. Might as well buy a Geo and drop in a blown 454.

I've seen a blown small block in one

Burnerdominator · #12 11-05-2006, 04:31 AM

nah heres one a small block 350 in a 1980 corolla sr-5 bastard made our baby into a hornet and smoked the motor the first night. Grrr gay punks.

MazdaX · #13 11-05-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor06

You will never be able to build an engine, piece together a turbo setup, and get support mods for $2000. Just wont happen. What did you get the car for?

I basically got the car for free which is why I am willing to invest money into it. I can't get anything out of it due to the mileage , almost at 200,000 miles for a 1999 = no value.

I've built a couple motos minus turbo kits but as far as pistons, rods, bearings , crank etc.. I can do that all my self which is why I was looking to only spend about 2K ( no shop labor B.S. charges ) I don't mind if it runs me more though I just have 2K on hand right now. Judging by what you all say, I think I need to look into new lower compression pistons and bearings first of all.

However like I said, I am new to the eclipse, I can follow directions to a T but I don't know where to start looking for my internals. Anyone kick me down some info on that would be much appreciated. I think the turbo kit itself will wait until after winter when I have another 2 K on hand lol

gthompson97 · #14 11-05-2006, 08:22 PM

As for engine internals, just look on the internet man. I know ebay has some reputable kits that sell piston/rod combos, might wanna check those out.

MazdaX · #15 11-07-2006, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by gthompson97

As for engine internals, just look on the internet man. I know ebay has some reputable kits that sell piston/rod combos, might wanna check those out.

Bleh..ebay. I refuse to tune my car with anything non brand name off ebay.
The basic set up I am looking forward to finally building is something like the below picture :

I would like to go with eagle h beams, weisco pistons, i don't know where to look for a crank/bearing kit though , valves are everywhere and would like some personal opinions on those.

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