dohc non v-tec or sohc v-tec?

[91hondahatchback]

i was wondering whichone i should get

can u people help me out with price, parts, and compatability

i have a 1991 hatchback cx with a 1.5 L in it now

[EFsleeper]

Originally posted by 91hondahatchback
i was wondering whichone i should get

can u people help me out with price, parts, and compatability

i have a 1991 hatchback cx with a 1.5 L in it now

It may all depend on what you want to long term with your car. I personally say :monkeypis on VTEC. I am a fan of driveable power, not revvable power. Meaning I like it when you make power lower in the RPM band. I hate riding in friends cars and waiting for 5K rpm to come up before we start going anywhere.

I assume that you are from Canada since you list your car as a CX. If you have a 1.5 now you will have to convert the fuel injection system over no matter what swap you do.

The two most common Non Vtec swaps in your car would be the ZC and Integra LS motor. The ZC would be cheaper of the two. The LS has a bit more power and aftermarket support as far as parts go.

If I were you I would check the Honda Hybrid page. This isnt really a tutorial page on how to swap engines. If you want opinions I would read up on it there or some place else then come back here to post questions if you still dont understand something.

[plkelley]

I would definetly go with ZC (dohc non-vtec). VTEC is nice if you dont mind dumping your clutch at 5 grand everytime you take off

[91hondahatchback]

that is what a lot of people have said but i live in ct

so if i got the zc motor what am i looking at for parts i need to get

[plkelley]

ZC runs about 500 w/out shipping and is a direct bolt in, no need to change anything.

[EFsleeper]

Originally posted by plkelley
ZC runs about 500 w/out shipping and is a direct bolt in, no need to change anything.

WRONG. This is only true if you are keeping your stock transmission which would be RETARDED. And if you did keep your trans you would still have to rewire the car, change the ECU, get different Intake, get different header ( unless the ZC comes with one, either way youll need a cat because your 1.5's is built into the manifold, a resistor box for the MPFI, new radiator hose and so on. If you go with an SI or ZC trans you will be in it for new axles and hubs.

Like I said before. go to a page that specializes in swap info where it is all laid out. Try hasport.com or search yahoo. Dont rely on people here. Most of them are 16-20 year olds that know nothing more than the fact that the world is round....

[91hybridDX]

i resent that remark im 18 and have done about 5 honda motor swaps and can help with most qwestions of that sort, i cant tell whats wrong with a motor but i can swap em out like a pro

[Melt]

I say you go dohc zc

[gunnmen01]

I dont launch at 5 grand nor do i have to wait for revs to come up to get power(thats what N2O is for), ZC's are cheap but unreliable(from what i've heard). The ls motor is good, the D16 z6(92-95) or y8(96-00) is also a good swap. As for the quality of people here , there alot of good people here with damn good info. By all means use your own opinion though....

gunnmen01

[H4Bangin]

It all depends on what u are lookin for daily driver or wekkend racer
me i am goin with a 5th gen d16z6 for now only because i commute 160miles ever day :bandit:

[turbcivic]

SOHC- Vtec would work. Not as expesive as the b16 but can be made to make the seem amount of power<cough>nitrous<cough>

[plkelley]

Sorry EFsleeper, oh god of civics, what a dick. First of all i will be the first to say that i was wrong without your shitty attitude. Sorry i was thinkin SI instead of DX. People like you give everyone else in these forums bad reps. Just say no thats for the SI, the DX needs..... Easy nough dick!

[EFsleeper]

Originally posted by plkelley
Sorry EFsleeper, oh god of civics, what a dick. First of all i will be the first to say that i was wrong without your shitty attitude. Sorry i was thinkin SI instead of DX. People like you give everyone else in these forums bad reps. Just say no thats for the SI, the DX needs..... Easy nough dick!

Well gee, he specified what model his car was. Is it that hard to read CX? People like me? people like me end up helping out the people who get screwed over by the people who send them in the wrong direction in the first place. There is nothing I can say to give someone else a bad rep. Other than my own opinion of what I think of them. People can make their own judgments from that. Youve been here a whole 22 posts, so watch what you say. You dont know me. If you dont like my attitude then thats great. I didnt like your answer to his post. Hopefully that guy will take my advice and find his info somewhere else, perhaps in the motor swap or whatever forum on this site. At least he didnt end up buying a motor thinking that his swap would be all gravy because, hmm let me put it in your way "people like you" told him it would drop right in. I didnt put you down personally in my previous post. I just wanted to make it clear that what you stated was wrong so the guy wouldnt think that it was true.

[mellowboy]

Originally posted by EFsleeper


I hate riding in friends cars and waiting for 5K rpm to come up before we start going anywhere.

Thats not true. I mean i know b16 are torqueless and all but hey it moves even before the v-tec kicks in. Also if i had a gsr motor that will take off better cause it has more torque than b16 and i think the ls motor also. Anyways back to the post. I would say if your tight on budget then go with the sohc v-tec or zc. If you can afford b-series motor then by all means go for it!

[amy@af]

Originally posted by EFsleeper

People can make their own judgments from that. Youve been here a whole 22 posts, so watch what you say.

man, look whos talking. you only have 125 posts! give me a break.

now, gunnmen and I have BOTH done the sohc vtec. i think he'll agree...when you use the sohc vtec engine, P28 ECU, and wiring harness...it is pretty much plug n' play. tranny, axels, and motor mounts work. you can even use your DX tranny. but it's really worth it to get the 88-91 Si tranny.

i personally went with the y8 because it came out of a '00 EX with only 12,000. that is new born baby in honda terms. i did not go with the ZC because it is recommended to be rebuilt (they sit too long and seals go bad). the zc is made up of many parts. i didn't feel like having to keep a shopping list of parts number for the ZC so i know which timing belt...which oil filter..and so on is needed.

i think i would ask travis_118 about how hard the ZC swap was. he had never done a swap before and did it himself (with some friends). i'm sure he can tell you do's and don'ts he learned