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98 Rodeo - CEL P0171
Have a '98 Rodeo, 127K miles. CEL light came on and off for awihle, and eventually just stayed on. Ended up as P0401 (Decreased EGR Flow). Cleaned the EGR ports and all is well.
A few weeks later CEL light again... intermittent at first, now stays on. Finally had it red at AutoZone. P0171 - Fuel Trim System Lean Bank 1. Idles a little rough, but runs smooth when accelerated. Every now and then it feels like it wants to stall (when idling) but it has never stalled. Most of the posts I have seen here (and in 4x4Wires's forums) for P0171 code are usually associated with 1 or more other codes (P0172, P0174, P0175). I don't have any other codes, just this one. AutoZone guy and friends think its dirty injectors. Tried running with Techron and RXP Gas Kicker. Neither did the trick. Other sites seem to suggest O2 sensor and/or intake manifold gasket (IMG). But usually they are associated with other codes also. Thoughts? Try getting an fuel injector service done (dealer said $140 - good price?) Try to do the O2 sensor (is that hard to replace)? CELs are an automatic fail on state inspection (which is due this month), so any help would be greatly appreciated! |
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Re: 98 Rodeo - CEL P0171
Forgot to mention, its a 3.2L, v6.
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Re: 98 Rodeo - CEL P0171
NotesDTC P0171 -Fuel Trim System Lean Bank 1
Circuit Description To provide the best possible combination of driveability, fuel economy, and emission control, a "closed loop" air/fuel metering system is used. While in "closed loop," the powertrain control module (PCM) monitors the Bank 1 HO2S 1 and Bank 2 HO2S 1 signals and adjusts fuel delivery based upon the HO2S signal voltages. A change made to fuel delivery will be indicated by the long and short term fuel trim values which can be monitored with a scan tool. Ideal fuel trim values are around 0%; if the HO2S signals are indicating a lean condition the PCM will add fuel, resulting in fuel trim values above 0%. If a rich condition is detected, the fuel trim values will be below 0%, indicating that the PCM is reducing the amount of fuel delivered. If an excessively lean condition is detected on Bank 1, the PCM will set DTC P0171. The PCM's maximum authority to control long term fuel trim allows a range between -15% (automatic transmission) or -12% (manual transmission) and +20%. The PCM monitors fuel trim under various engine speed/load fuel trim cells before determining the status the fuel trim diagnostic. Conditions for Setting the DTC
Check for the following conditions:
Number(s) below refer to the step number(s) on the Diagnostic Chart.
Last edited by international bus; 10-17-2006 at 10:22 PM. |
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Re: 98 Rodeo - CEL P0171
classic for my 2000 with the 3.2 to throw a po 171 when the i.m.g. is going south. has thrown that code all three times my i.m.g. has failed.
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2006 liberty 3.7 6speed manual 1999 cherokee classic 4.0L 1991 wrangler yj 2.5L 2001 caravan 3.3 auto 1995&1992&1994 camry 2.2L SOLD 1991 silverado 1500 SOLD 2000 rodeo SOLD
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Re: 98 Rodeo - CEL P0171
Thanks 2000isuzu... Is it best to replace the upper and lower IMG or is it often one or the other? I'm a complete novice - is this something I can do myself, or best to let someone trained handle it?
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Re: 98 Rodeo - CEL P0171
it is the lowers that are in question. very common occurrence on 98 + 3.2L.
read up in the F.a.Q section at the top of the forum. procedure is listed and common codes associated with it also are up there. i did not do mine myself. but it looks a little beyond a diy'er. you have to have specific torque on the new gasket as well as take the egr apart which requires a homemade shortened wrench. it is all in the F.A.Q. good luck! mike p.s. while you got the intake out. you will want to replace the thermostat. it is buried under the plenum on 98+ models. also check the tubes under the intake for coolant leakage. just prevenative.
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2006 liberty 3.7 6speed manual 1999 cherokee classic 4.0L 1991 wrangler yj 2.5L 2001 caravan 3.3 auto 1995&1992&1994 camry 2.2L SOLD 1991 silverado 1500 SOLD 2000 rodeo SOLD
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Re: 98 Rodeo - CEL P0171
Thanks again for the help... One last question. What would you think is a "fair price" (parts/labor) for this work (IMG, O2, and thermostat) at a non-dealer? Called local Isuzu dealer (Dallas suburb) and he said ~$400 just for IMG. Seems kind of steep!!
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