Next season

[eclipser2001]

This ridding season is almost over. I had a blast learning to ride on my 2002 ZX6R. I'm ready to move up. I'm looking at bikes for next season. I want a liter bike, R1, Gixxer-1000, ZX10R, or the 1000R or RR? I thought there was a best liter bike poll but I could be mistaking.

DISSREGUARD THE ZX-10RR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WAS THINKING.

[speediva]

My vote, and call me whatever you may, but if you learned to ride a 600cc super sport this year... I would learn how to ride it better next year instead of spending $10g for something you won't be able to ride any better than what you've got.

[Z_Fanatic]

They're all great.

[eclipser2001]

Originally Posted by saturntangerine

My vote, and call me whatever you may, but if you learned to ride a 600cc super sport this year... I would learn how to ride it better next year instead of spending $10g for something you won't be able to ride any better than what you've got.

I think I can ride my bike really good. I was doing wheelies in 3 months. I'm just ready to be able to hang with my friends with liter bikes. I'm tired of being passed. I can hang with them in the twisties just not the city roads.

[DealsGap]

Originally Posted by saturntangerine

My vote, and call me whatever you may, but if you learned to ride a 600cc super sport this year... I would learn how to ride it better next year instead of spending $10g for something you won't be able to ride any better than what you've got.

A huge +1.

Originally Posted by eclipser2001

I think I can ride my bike really good. I was doing wheelies in 3 months. I'm just ready to be able to hang with my friends with liter bikes. I'm tired of being passed. I can hang with them in the twisties just not the city roads.

I don't mean for this to come off like a personal attack, but I think it's worth saying. You are not a good rider with 1 year of experience under your belt. Anyone can do a wheelie, there is very little skill involved there.

If you are riding through the city at speeds beyond what a 600 is capable of you are not only stupid, but are very selfish to put other people at that level of unassumed risk.

If you attend a few trackdays you'll observe most of the fast guys on 600's, and the majority of the literbikes in the novice groups. If you spend any time whatsoever on the track it will be embarrassing how much faster good 600 riders are capable of going than you are. This is nothing to be ashamed of as none of us are born fast, but buying more power to compensate is not the answer. Spend that money on tires and track admission fees and this time next year you'll be able to park and drink a coke before your riding buddies even get there.

[Z_Fanatic]

Originally Posted by eclipser2001

I can hang with them in the twisties just not the city roads.

I think what you're looking for is that low end torque of the literbikes. If that's the case, just drop a gear on your 600 and twist the throttle harder to keep up with your friends from traffic lights to lights. However, if you're friends are dragging from light to light, and doing something like 80 mph in 45 zone, may be they're not the smartest crowd around. Because of gearing, 600s are pretty close to 1000 when it comes to 0-60 mph acceleration.

However, if you do a lot of freeway miles, then merging onto traffic becomes easier with a 1000. Or if you're looking to wheelie off the apex or spin the rear to improve your skills at the curves, without shifting gears much, then literbikes are it.

[eclipser2001]

Originally Posted by Z_Fanatic

I think what you're looking for is that low end torque of the literbikes. If that's the case, just drop a gear on your 600 and twist the throttle harder to keep up with your friends from traffic lights to lights. However, if you're friends are dragging from light to light, and doing something like 80 mph in 45 zone, may be they're not the smartest crowd around. Because of gearing, 600s are pretty close to 1000 when it comes to 0-60 mph acceleration.

However, if you do a lot of freeway miles, then merging onto traffic becomes easier with a 1000. Or if you're looking to wheelie off the apex or spin the rear to improve your skills at the curves, without shifting gears much, then literbikes are it.

When you say drop a gear do you mean just change some sprockets? I was planning on going -1/+2 if this new bike doesnt fall threw.

But I was planning on selling my bike nevertheless. I leave for Marine Corps Boot Camp towards the end of November and I want to have one less bill to distract me from my training. So I was selling my bike no matter what and I wanted to get a liter bike next summer. So thats just for a better understanding of the whole story. I was leaning towards the Gixxer 1000 or the R1. More towards the R1 because the Gixxer is like a butt whole, everbodys got one. I just needed to narrow it down. I also want another Kawi so I might get the 10R. I just don't know, just don't know.

[Z_Fanatic]

Originally Posted by eclipser2001

When you say drop a gear do you mean just change some sprockets? I was planning on going -1/+2 if this new bike doesnt fall threw.

I was referring to shifting, keep it in 1st gear, 600s should have no problem keeping up with liters from stop and go. Also, regearing sprockets help with low end acceleration.

But I was planning on selling my bike nevertheless. I leave for Marine Corps Boot Camp towards the end of November and I want to have one less bill to distract me from my training. So I was selling my bike no matter what and I wanted to get a liter bike next summer. So thats just for a better understanding of the whole story. I was leaning towards the Gixxer 1000 or the R1. More towards the R1 because the Gixxer is like a butt whole, everbodys got one. I just needed to narrow it down. I also want another Kawi so I might get the 10R. I just don't know, just don't know.

dont forget the gsxr750, it's the best between 600 and 1000. you could spend a weekend borrowing friends bike, if it's too much, you'll know right away. above 7000 rpm, 1000 is a different animal.

[aussieidiot]

as a rider of a (for the sake of Z) an almost liter bike, take my word for it.

a good rider on a 600 will kick your ass.

i have the 954 for the physical size and two up ability (and price).
a 750 is a better step up as almost all the power is usable with the torque of the liter. a liter can bite hard if mis-used. i spin the back wheel if i try to overtake quickly on a cold wet morning.

i would have had a 750 if price wasn't such a consideration and even now considering the step back to one.

on the track the 600's will have it all over me on the back sections and i only just get back up at the end of the straight.

if your friends all ride 1000's, why not get their opinion.

gsxr are popular because they are good (at the moment but long term will tell a different story)

each bike has strengths and weakness'. you need to match your strengths and weakness' with the bike to suit you and not peer pressure.

[richtazz]

Unless you are looking for a commuter bike, the disadvantages of a big-bore bike (more expensive to insure, worse fuel economy, harder to manuever at speed and in parking lots) far outweigh it's advantages (straight line speed and less shifting). On longer rides, there are more advantages, as big-bore bikes don't vibrate as much, require less downshifting and are easier to ride 2-up due to the longer wheelbase. Make sure you do your homework before you trade, as you may not be happy with the results. Where bikes are concerned, bigger isn't always better.