american engine all the way

[krondor22]

We all know that in stock form the b series motors have more hp and all that. but what they do not tell you is that how in the hell if your b series motor breaks down how in the hell are you going to be able to find parts to fix it. they do not usually part out b series motors your only other option is to order straight from japan and good luck not to mention trying to pass smog. American d series all the way. average price of a b16a install is 3000k average price of a d series z6 or y8 1-1500k and just emagine what you can do with the extra 2k turbo supercharger nos a heap lot of bolt ons come on guys. and 400+ on mounts thats intake and exaust and a little more right there. I really think b series motors are overate and over priced. and another little tid bit jdm law requires engines to be recycled so to speak at 30000 miles if that is the only life the engine is going to get you better believe they are running the living piss out of them. Usdm all the way and thats my final answer.
ps granted there are usdm versions of the b16 b18 but good luck on getting one. and another thing have you ever heard of someone parting out a b series motor no not really or rarely is the correct answer

[DRCustom]

Damn good point, but the "hey look what I got" effect goes a long way.

I'd love to have a b16 a or b, just because, even though I could probably get as much horse for less dollar...but that redline (I'm getting goosepimples just thinking about it)...you won't see a usdm engine capable of 9k RPM.

[krondor22]

sure i have are good friends are jet and apexi call rev limit reajustment or removal hehehehehehehehezooooooooooooooooom

[Marc-OS]

Originally posted by DRCustom
you won't see a usdm engine capable of 9k RPM.

S2000 has a 9k rpm redline, 120hp per liter, NA.

As for the whole B series thing. The D series engines are great in their own way, but B series engines have more potential thanks to that extra cam. I would still take a D series though just because it's more of a challenge to make big HP.

[krondor22]

i really like the way you think brotha you know your cars i replyed to one of your replys on someone elses post about the nissan j20 and rwd and you are pretty much right except wieght and handling are also factors in a car

[DRCustom]

Originally posted by Marc-OS


S2000 has a 9k rpm redline, 120hp per liter, NA.

As for the whole B series thing. The D series engines are great in their own way, but B series engines have more potential thanks to that extra cam. I would still take a D series though just because it's more of a challenge to make big HP.

My mistake not specifying D series (didn't think I had to since that's what we were talking about) when I said USDM. The S2k has a not a D, or B series, but who's swapping those motors?
Either way, with as much as you'd spend, you may be able to redo a D series to handle 9k.

Challenge yourself all you want, but you'll have a hard time getting a D series to compete with a B series with reliability -and- hp.

[DRCustom]

BTW, full B16a swap, is well under 2k, your getting ripped for 3k.

[krondor22]

Originally posted by DRCustom
BTW, full B16a swap, is well under 2k, your getting ripped for 3k.

maybe if you do it yourself a full swap costs around 1300 dollors not including shipping or mounts and if a reputable shop is doing the install expect to pay 1k check around the net see what people are charging best price I can get on a b16a installed is 2500 and thats because my good friend owns the speed shop and thats his cost.

[tenzoracerevovii]

It depends on what generation b16. the 1st will go for about 2k and the 2nd gen will cost about 3 thousand. I also realize the potential in a d16 and it would be fun to build it up, but i would take the b16 over the d16 any day. And about the unavailability of parts, most b-series parts are interchangeable. So if you b16 timing belt needs replacing, get one for the USDM b16a2. And if others go wrong, like internals, you can always upgrade to type-r or etc. And this JDM thing is getting popular, so the availability is getting better too.

[91zc]

Parts are really easy to get for a bseries motor since most of parts are the same for USDM b series motors except for a few here and there. You just have to know what parts to look for. I have passed emissions with my b16a pretty easily. I spent about 3k on the swap but I replaced alot of parts including:

New stage 1 hybrid axles
new stage 1 clutch
radiator
crank and alternator pulleys
water pump
timing belt
thermostat
all new hoses
plugs and wires
cap and rotor
oil pan gasket
valve cover gasket
new throttle cable

Maybe it is true that they run their motors hard but the one I have must not. It is in really good shape internally and runs like a champ. US b series motors are pretty easy to find. You can find the b18a/b or even a b18c1 at your local junkyard. Nippon Motors sells US b series motors as well. Before you go around saying b series motors are not all that get your facts straight and make an educated comparison

[DRCustom]

Ya, everyone I know does thier own swaps.

The place people I know get them from charges 1150 for a b16a.

I'm not sure how much shipping is, and yes, you still have to get mounts.

I've heard about 2500 installed also.

If I had the chance (I meant he money), I wouldn't hesitate on a b series swap.

You may be spending more for a b series, but you're getting alot more than some extra hp. The higher redline essentially makes the car faster (the same sized d series, with the same amount of hp, would lose to a b series), because it uses the torque more efficently. Not to mention that when shifted at redline, the b series trannys are setup to fall just into vtec.

The d series motor was made to be an all around motor, where as the b series that are in question were made for acceleration.

[QuickSilverEF9]

lol I would kill to have a b16a swapped into my car for $2500.... in Kansas its just not happening. I got quoted twice that to swap a b16a in my car. If it did cost $2500-3000 I would already have one in my car.... The truth is the cheapest I have found the swap in my area is $4300. Maybe I will drive to cali and have them swap it in then drive back. Or maybe I will just stick with the plan and swap in the SOHC vtec

[mellowboy]

Ok i'm kinda getting sick of this d vs. b series rivalry here. Know this and this all u need to know. D-series is nothing compared to b-series. B-series is a much better motor. Hey i bought my motor with trans and ecu for 1087 after tax. Where? A place called Eric Of Japan. The whole swap cost me a lil over 1600 and close 1700. Who cares if the motor is beatin up? I sure don't. Why? Cause i'm gonna build it up anyways and i'm sure i'm not the only one who thinks that. It does get annoying when ppl say "everyone and there moms have b16" Well i can say the same about us honda owners...rite? Its not what u have...its what u've done with it. I know ppl sayin that oh don't go b-series with that money u can get a sohc v-tec with turbo blah blah blah. You can only go so far with sohc. To the newbies if u wanna swap go b-series thats it. IF your on low budget ...then save up. Thats what i did. Better late than never.

[dropshop]

Originally posted by mellowboy
. You can only go so far with sohc.

i agree w evrything but that
450 WHP is doable on a D motor
granted its hightly boosted
but its doable
ive seen 10 sec D series
but it takes a lil more $$ to get it there

[mellowboy]

Originally posted by dropshop





but it takes a lil more $$ to get it there

I definatley agree on that. Seriously man turbo is really hard to maintain and its gonna cost you even more. Tell me if i'm rite or wrong?