Which would be the better project car:

[R1-rider]

A local lumber yard that I know a few people who work there told me they are selling their 95 F250 powerstroke truck, and they would sell it to me for $1000. Definetely thought there would be something wrong with it, nope perfect condition with only like 150K miles and a nice flatbed on it. So I am going to be selling it for about $10K which it should go for quite easily. That would be a healthy enough boost to start on my next project car.

Anyway, here are a couple of ideas I have been thinking of:
-RX-7 with a blown engine, and replace it with a 20B.
-Buy my friends S15 and make it either RB26 or 2JZ powered.
-65-70 Camaro drop in a 502 ramjet attatched to a shortshaft TH-400.

Anyways, just need a few more ppl to bounce ideas off of.

[MadZ]

Damn, option #3 is in a league of it's own if you ask me. Definately #3 if you can get a deal on a 502 crate engine. those suckers can get quite expensive. Some of the cheapest ones I've seen go for $8k. A 67-69 camaro would be a badass project with a 502. The '70 model is going to be a different style though, but still badass.

[R1-rider]

It is a tough call really between the 20B rx7 and the camaro. I really love good ol american muscle, no replacement for displacement. I can find pretty good deals on 69 camaros out here that had no engines or trannies, and yea, ramjets are expensive.

[|Banchi1O5|]

definately the camero!

[TerminalVelocity]

well, if you try to handle well in a 502 pre 73 camero, your going to learn what sliding is about :hehe: The Rx7 would be much better for handling, and instant respect from everyone aside from hardcore muscle heads. The Camaro would be instant respect from all but ultimate rice burners.

All in all, Camaro has my vote, unless you want to do some tricky handling.

[-The Stig-]

Originally posted by TerminalVelocity
well, if you try to handle well in a 502 pre 73 camero, your going to learn what sliding is about :hehe: The Rx7 would be much better for handling, and instant respect from everyone aside from hardcore muscle heads. The Camaro would be instant respect from all but ultimate rice burners.

All in all, Camaro has my vote, unless you want to do some tricky handling.

what are you talking about? theres plenty of aftermarket parts to make 1st and 2nd Generation camaros handle as good as anything. And a 502 isnt much heavier than a normal 327 or 350 engine you'd find in a Camaro and dont forget Those camaros came with a Big block option the 396. Remember a SBC engine is about 600lbs a BBC is about 800lbs.. Oh wow such a huge difference. Not only that but you've got a big bitch between the fenders.. dont care what anybody says, a big bitch demands respect. Especially if you tune the suspension so the car can pull .80+G on the Skid pad Which CAN be done.

oh, R1-Rider, 67 was the first year of the Camaro not 65 like you mentioned. its ok i think we knew what you ment!

[Layla's Keeper]

Damn straight, Redneck383. The name Mark Stielow comes to mind. He did two 1st gen Camaros that both turned over .9G on the skidpad and he kept them live axle. Not to mention if you're really "hardcore" I think there was at some point (possibly by 'Lil John Buttera) a kit to throw the transverse leaf IRS from a C4 Corvette under a 1st Gen F-body.

Besides, who can argue with Roger Penske about how well the 1st Gen handles? Does a certain blue '69 with Sunoco livery come to mind?

(personally, though, I'd scrap the big block plan and go with a Lingenfelter-tuned LT-5 with the Borg Warner T56 backing it. The best of both worlds, no?)

[LjasonL]

lingenfelter 427TT!



id go with the rx7. three rotors are the shit

[Steel]

dont forget that you're looking at speadning at LEAST $10k to put a 20b into the RX-7. This Is Why. . I'm just letting you know what you're getting into if you wanna pop a 20b inot the Rex. And it isn't exactly a "pop in" either.

[Bryan8412]

wow glad to hear similar ideas ive come across (although replace the camaro with a 69 chevelle )

but with 550 ft/lbs, you'd need a new transmission, and with a vehicle that old probably a whole lot of new everything. but if you're willing to spend by all means go for it, just make sure you have a roll cage for that sucker.

more practical i think the 20b would be, ive heard of alot simpler swaps then mentioned on that website, but maybe thats just me. mostly ive heard if you get it and swap the twin turbo for a single or get it blown it really flies. one guy had it supercharged and have every part polished it was nice, but the engine is expensive. if you plan to go all out, head on over to www.revolutionrotary.com , they sell brand new remanufacted blown w/ micro computer equipped 20b's for 10 grand, and less for the base engine. good luck let me know what you choose

[R1-rider]

Originally posted by Octagon
(personally, though, I'd scrap the big block plan and go with a Lingenfelter-tuned LT-5 with the Borg Warner T56 backing it. The best of both worlds, no?)

I was thinking of maybe using a smaller engine and just using forced induction to meet the #'s I would want to start out with. However after a good debating I decided to just use a block that can produce those amount of numbers first. This way being able to drive it daily would prove no problem. Plus, if I decide to ever just make silly amounts of power, the potential is almost limitless.

Originally posted by Steel
dont forget that you're looking at speadning at LEAST $10k to put a 20b into the RX-7. This Is Why. . I'm just letting you know what you're getting into if you wanna pop a 20b inot the Rex. And it isn't exactly a "pop in" either.

I would be doing a FD rx7, not a FC

Originally posted by Bryan8412
but with 550 ft/lbs, you'd need a new transmission, and with a vehicle that old probably a whole lot of new everything. but if you're willing to spend by all means go for it, just make sure you have a roll cage for that sucker.

Yea, luckily AZ has alot of older cars that people always want to restore but don't find the time too. And since there is basically no humidity out here, most of the cars I have come across have been in decent enough shape expect the normal wear and tear interior. And as far as trannys go, the TH-400 has proven a reliable engine to withstand hp reaching up to 2000 after getting it rebuilt.



Anyway, it is basically like I said, this is going to be my project car. I don't plan on everything being perfect right from the get go, but you have to start somewhere right? And I am sure I will be running into alot of problems no matter what path I go down.

btw, nobody has yet commented on the S15 w/RB26DETT into it (skyline motor). I think that would be an incredible sleeper and be a very sleek looking car as well.

[Bryan8412]

well good luck. personally i think the 502 is the way to go, good old muscle: stupid power with the minimum suspension needs Make sure you put some tires that can hook up tho, the torque curve on that bitch is a pancake. if i find a picture ill post it

EDIT: here it is

[R1-rider]

Yea, like I said previously, the ramjet is a friggin torque monster. I think at about 2000rpms it is making still about 320ftlbs. (erg edit)

[-The Stig-]

ooo this is what my engine looked like when i first got it from the shop!

[TerminalVelocity]

Originally posted by RedNeck383



what are you talking about? theres plenty of aftermarket parts to make 1st and 2nd Generation camaros handle as good as anything. And a 502 isnt much heavier than a normal 327 or 350 engine you'd find in a Camaro and dont forget Those camaros came with a Big block option the 396. Remember a SBC engine is about 600lbs a BBC is about 800lbs.. Oh wow such a huge difference. Not only that but you've got a big bitch between the fenders.. dont care what anybody says, a big bitch demands respect. Especially if you tune the suspension so the car can pull .80+G on the Skid pad Which CAN be done.

oh, R1-Rider, 67 was the first year of the Camaro not 65 like you mentioned. its ok i think we knew what you ment!

In retrospect I can make my t-bird a 10 sec car....hell, I could make it a funny car, but I dont have anywhere near that kind of $

Anotherwards

Yes, I know there are pleanty of aftermarket parts, what do you think I plan on doing to the 69 Mach 1 I plan on getting in my dreams and hopes which will probally never happen?

It all depends on how much $ is avalable, because a 502 with that suspension, and all the rest which is needed, would cost assloads.