stupid ?

[Derk_eliso]

so...why do they call them J-bodys anyway? What did I miss? lol.

[my99cavy]

The J platform, or J-body, was General Motors' inexpensive front-wheel drive automobile platform from the 1980s and 1990s. The platform replaced the GM H platform. The first J-body car was the Chevrolet Cavalier, which was released on March 21, 1981 as a 1982 model. The Cavalier was phased out at the end of 2004 in favor of the new Chevrolet Cobalt. The last surviving J-body car, the Mexican-built Pontiac Sunfire, ended production in June 2005. There are three generations of the J-body: 1982 to 1987 (or until 1988 or 1989 depending on the model), 1988 to 1994, and 1995 to 2005.
Except for cosmetic differences, engine upgrades and the discontinuation of certain models, the platform remained largely unchanged throughout the years.
Design of the J-body dated back to the mid-1970s. At that time, GM-controlled divisions in different parts of the world manufactured totally different rear-wheel drive mid-size and subcompact cars - the Chevrolet Vega in America, the Vauxhall Cavalier/Opel Ascona in Europe, the Holden Torana in Australia and the Isuzu Florian in Japan. Some of them were not particularly competitive, so it was decided that a common replacement would be developed to eliminate duplication of engineering effort and ensure parts interchangeability. When the Arab Oil Embargo forced CAFE mandates, and the fear of US$3.00 for a gallon of gasoline, the J-body was practically produced straight off the drawing board.

[Cavalier2000]

wow what a paragraph lol

[Derk_eliso]

fear of 3.00 dollar a gallon, welcome to reality, lol. 2.74 here

[OverAllComa]

Originally Posted by Derk_eliso

fear of 3.00 dollar a gallon, welcome to reality, lol. 2.74 here

1981's $3.00 was worth more than today's $3.00.

Oh yeah, and 99cavy didn't include the phase differences. I can't say for Gen 1, but Gen 2 had Phase I (88-90) and Phase II (91-94), Gen 3 had Phase I (95-99), Phase II (00-02), and Phase III (2003-2005). All had motor and cosmetic differences, but the primary way of differentiating them all was cosmetic as there were motor changes in the middle of some phases (such as the 95-96 difference of 2.3 Quad 4 vs. 2.4 Twin Cam). Hardware changes include stuff like the rear struts on 95+ or the larger front brake rotors from 91+.

Though my personal favorite for "never saw that car being fast" kinda sleeper was the Turbo Bird.

And let's not forget the good old Toyota Cavalier, a car that defined "dud" in Japan.

[my99cavy]

Originally Posted by Cavalier2000

wow what a paragraph lol

haha yeah you like that paragraph steve lol