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Old 08-28-2006, 04:43 PM
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i think i blew my engine...help

goddammit, all i was doing was painting my valve cover (it looks wuite good as a matter of fact) and when i put everything back in and hooked everything back up, i cranked it.......turn turn...boom! it poped pretty loud. i think something fell into the lower timeing belt thingy and stoped it. damit tomm ima have to tear it all down and see what the hell i did. all the bolts, wrnched screws and sockets are accounted for so i no i didnt drop anything in there. what usually gives first? i no something did. valve maybe, hopefuly not a piston or a rod, maybe just a pistion ring, we took the cover back off and everything was fine in there. the ignition wires r hooked up right, and the belt didnt jump, it still in the right place. every sensor is connected and all the vaccum hoses r as well. dammit, it threw out black smoke from the exaust when it was trying to start on. please help me help my car!!!!!!
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Re: i think i blew my engine...help

how is your oil pressure?
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Old 08-28-2006, 05:19 PM
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Re: i think i blew my engine...help

Bro You didn't reinstall the old valve cover gasget did you, You should always replace it with a new one..........
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Re: i think i blew my engine...help

So it just backfired really loud at startup? No idle it just backfired and died? Or did you kill the ignition? What all did you remove and put back together?
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Re: i think i blew my engine...help

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Bro You didn't reinstall the old valve cover gasget did you, You should always replace it with a new one..........
i agree, you should put a new valve cover gasket when you replace the valve cover.

but the valve cover most likely had nothing to do with this.

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the belt didnt jump, it still in the right place.
are you sure? so the timing marks all line up? double check.

are you sure the belt didn't snap? describe this "boom" you heard in more detail. i've never heard of an engine "blowing" or whatever on start-up. hopefully Stealthee can shed some more light.
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Re: i think i blew my engine...help

im sur ethe belt didnt jump, and yes i used the same gasket, i am prolly gonan go ge a new one, but thats houlsnt make the popping sound then black smoke. something is stopping the belt from turning, prolly.
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Re: i think i blew my engine...help

could of just been a carbon build up
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Re: i think i blew my engine...help

thats a possibility but what i am worrired abut is how do i go about looking for the problem, i mean i could always just tear it down, but jeez
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Re: i think i blew my engine...help

Well first off, answering our questions helps. I still don't know whether the car died or whether you pulled hte key. I don't know whether it was a backfire or whether there was a loud bang from under the hood. Did you cover everything with some type of rag or shop towel when you had the valve covers off? Is the belt being stopped from turning or not, are you just guessing? Have you checked to make sure all the marks line up? Have you checked that the belt didn't snap?

Please answer all of these.
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Your 1996 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 is the 92nd out of the 315 that were made that year. Only 21 of which are exactly identical.
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Re: i think i blew my engine...help

ok
i pulled the key
back fire, no bang form unde rthe hood
i covered the sparkplugs with the wires so nothing would get it the plugs, and the cams and rockers all checked out, there was nothing in there
the belt turns, and the marks line up, at least the ones on the gears do when i timed it a few months ago, there the same, but i still needa check the lower one to be sure
no the belt didnt snap
there


black smoke isnt good
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-Ignition mods
-dual magnaflow exaust
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Re: i think i blew my engine...help

Black smoke just means you are running rich.
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Your 1996 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 is the 92nd out of the 315 that were made that year. Only 21 of which are exactly identical.
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Re: i think i blew my engine...help

Next question you said "cranked it...turn turn turn boom"

Was it cranking long before it fired up, or did it fire up quick and normal like? My bet is something was either a problem with the starter and you didn't start fast enough, or something else wrong causing the engine to flood, but either way, too much fuel in the engine resulted in a backfire when it did start.
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Your 1996 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 is the 92nd out of the 315 that were made that year. Only 21 of which are exactly identical.
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Re: i think i blew my engine...help

it was cranking a while, longer then normal, and slower, then it popped. i took the key out as a reation as soon as it popped, now it wont start
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-2 1/2 inch straight pipe exaust, custom y downpipe
-Ignition mods
-dual magnaflow exaust
-going TT (wish me luck)

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-'95 mustang v6 (modded) /////
-'00 neon (modded/non-turbo) ///
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Old 08-29-2006, 02:17 PM
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Re: i think i blew my engine...help

By it wont start....you mean? it wont crank when you turn the key? It cranks but wont fire?


You need to elaborate a lot more.
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Re: i think i blew my engine...help

Bet it's the starter or starter ground wire, cranking longer than normal, so gas was going in, but not being burned. Finally I'm guessing it caught or you gave it full throttle which kills the injectors, and it started, and gave you a massive backfire.
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-Proboost mbc
-Cusco front + rear strut bars
-Greddy type-s
-ATR downpipe
-no cats
-15Gs, 3sx aluminum pulley, FMIC, SAFC, walboro pump, EVO 560ccs, and Meth Injection Kit all waiting to go in shortly.

Your 1996 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 is the 92nd out of the 315 that were made that year. Only 21 of which are exactly identical.
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