2003 Cobra Vs. Z06

[LamboSV]

I'm happy to see Ford finally put a motor in the mustang that runs as good as it sounds. Check it out.

http://www.yusufimedia.com/joeys_stuff/mam/MAM.wmv>
http://www.svtperformance.com/video/cobravsz06.mpeg>

[SkylineUSA]

Nice clips.

[BlkCamaroSS]

I, for one, am glad to see Ford with the 03 Stangs, pissed sometimes that they're gonna beat me, but glad for competition. Same thing with Chrysler coming out with the new Hemi's. Hopefully those are going to be two things to kick GM's ass to come out with a response, make the Corvette even better, while coming back with a potent 5th gen Camaro.

That said, I'm certain that in the first clip that the 03 races a modded stock Vette, not a Z06. The second race in the first clip of those two clearly shows a lack of rear brake vents on the side of the Corvette.

The second clip demonstrates how close the Z06 and the 03 Cobras really are. Seems like they'll come down to driver skills, but it looked like the Z06 was pulling on the Cobra until the video cut away. A longer clip would have been nice, but what can you do...

Both nice videos. Thanks for finding them and posting their links.

[94svt5.0]

Nice cars, wouldnt mind one myself.

[Helmz]

Originally posted by BlkCamaroSS
I, for one, am glad to see Ford with the 03 Stangs, pissed sometimes that they're gonna beat me, but glad for competition. Same thing with Chrysler coming out with the new Hemi's. Hopefully those are going to be two things to kick GM's ass to come out with a response, make the Corvette even better, while coming back with a potent 5th gen Camaro.

That said, I'm certain that in the first clip that the 03 races a modded stock Vette, not a Z06. The second race in the first clip of those two clearly shows a lack of rear brake vents on the side of the Corvette.

The second clip demonstrates how close the Z06 and the 03 Cobras really are. Seems like they'll come down to driver skills, but it looked like the Z06 was pulling on the Cobra until the video cut away. A longer clip would have been nice, but what can you do...

Both nice videos. Thanks for finding them and posting their links.

How much does a vet cost and a lot more than a cobra the average guy cant afford a vet, if you look at the dollar amount spent I think their is no comparison dollar for dollar it leans toward the ford thats what makes the cobra so awesome

[BlkCamaroSS]

It is awesome, but since I can't drive it, I get to hold the grudge against it. It's still too small for me, I'm 6'5" tall. I have to stick with an F-body or a Corvette...

[TcobrA]

Originally posted by BlkCamaroSS
It is awesome, but since I can't drive it, I get to hold the grudge against it. It's still too small for me, I'm 6'5" tall. I have to stick with an F-body or a Corvette...

Dump the rear seat. Movethe seat track back. Drill, ancor, and reattach the seat seat. My brother is 6'7" and he drives one!

[BlkCamaroSS]

That would be an option, I never thought of that.

I got the vehicle I want though, suits me just fine. Maybe after I'm out of college and can afford to get a second ride...

[99blackbird]

If all you want to do is drag race save your money and get the Cobra, but if you take them both through some twisties and the Z06 will show you where that extra money went.

[TcobrA]

That's what I've been told by:
A Z06 owner
A BMW M3 owner
A Porsche 911 owner

So far, the cost of a couple of tower braces and some more agressive tires, equalling less than $1200, has proven otherwise. These cars were easily paced in the "twisties" by me. To date, the only vehicle that could beat my 03 beast in the twisties has been a 2002 Subaru WRX (awd) and, when the road straigted , it was good night WRX.

Handling Improvements To Date:
1 set BF Goodrich g-force T/A KD tires -- $950
1 Strut Tower Brace (Kenny Brown) -- $200
1 Rear Shock Tower Brace (fabricated Chrom-moly) -- $22 (home made)

total cost for handling improvements: $1172.00
total difference between my Cobra and a Z06: ~$20000.00
with mods the difference is: ~$18,828.00

Hmmmm? Where DID that money go? You'd better fire your accountant.
:sun:

[99blackbird]

I'm not one to argue, but you should check out the races in the SCCA T-1 class. The mods you mentioned would certainly help to level the playing field on the backroads, but they do nothing for unsprung weight, the distribution of that weight and the over-all balance of the car. You improved your traction, and stability. The SVT is a great performer, especially for the money. All I'm saying is that the Z06 is better on the race track than the Cobra, stock for stock. Its more expensive because of the superior suspension and because the power is made through normal aspiration, and therefor more reliable. We can agree to disagree and I'm certain that one of us will be proven wrong when the SCCA season starts again. BTW, because I can't afford the Z06 I'm probably going to get the Cobra and do some of the same mods you mentioned. (Michelin Pilots though)

P.S. The Z06 is going for about 48,000 here. And we're getting the Cobras for about 32,500.

[TcobrA]

Originally posted by 99blackbird
P.S. The Z06 is going for about 48,000 here. And we're getting the Cobras for about 32,500. [/b]

Damn! Where do you live? I'm moving! What are Vipers going for?

Well, add lighter wheels (another $1500.00)-

Peace

[TcobrA]

oh, by the way, a batter relocation does wonders... coming soon... realy helped balance my Novi-motivated, Bassani-piped, '98 GT...........

[99blackbird]

Ain't it wonderful when the consumer has the upper hand? I live in south Louisiana, and the car dealerships are hurting so bad that everything is going for under sticker price. My cousin works at an authorized SVT dealership and he netted about 500 bucks last month.

[vortech]

"All I'm saying is that the Z06 is better on the race track than the Cobra, stock for stock. Its more expensive because of the superior suspension and because the power is made through normal aspiration, and therefor more reliable." --BlackBird. I agree with you that stock for stock the Z06 has the upper hand---but the only thing holding back the Cobra's road manners----really----is the front suspension. The k-member is its biggest obstacle. But the Z06 has what can be considered an aftermarket k-member in place---obviously thats a big reason that the handling is superior---and it justifies the $50k tag. However, Kenny Brown has developed a front k-member module with coil overs and a caster/camber setup that--easily if not gives an 01 or 03 cobra a bit of an edge. Thats how good that front module is----I know----I have it on my cobra-----and comapring it to the stock k-member--well, its just an insane comparison. The Z06 is an amazing vehicle for the price $---Viper owners are overpaying big time, in my opinion. But the module that I speak of----costs about $1,600 and thats not bad at all when your 03 coupe is only $36k. I don't agree with your naturally aspirated reliability remark. If you have a high quality blower----like an Eaton, Vortech, or ProCharger----and you have Forged internals-----then blower power is as reliable as aspirated power. As long as you service your vehicle correctly----thats a tough argument to wage.