Fuel costs and the Alaska pipeline

[xeroinfinity]

Figured everyones heard that the pipelines shut down and our fuel costs are going to skyrocket.

Well, this afternoon I spoke with a manager at a local BP(who uses this pipeline) and he said with in a couple weeks gas will be $4 or more a galon in the U.S.

And from what the news(cnn, msnbc) is saying everything will go up because of this shut down.
Not to mention that that bombing going on in Israel last week hit a petro tanker and some oil fields got hit too.

So, my 2025 "gas wars" conspiracy theory still holds fast.

So are any of you doing anything different now?

Or will you be doing things different when gas prices go higher then minimum wage ??

I know I will stop driving any excess,
and my towing charges are goin up too.

[BrodyP]

I have recently put my car up for sale due to the fact it runs on 93. The cost of gas is just to much at this point my life. Family, house savings are where my interets should be more focused. Yes gas will hit $4 I'm sure and god forbid we have another hurricain I could only imagine what that will do to oil prices. We do not want the US to start rationalizing our oil consumption and handing out cards. I had also brought to my organization they should implement a pairing/car pool board where fellow co-workers can pair up with people in there towns (being that I work for a large company outside a city). But they have yet to get back to me on that topic. I am just not happy with wages in respect to oil, at this rate paying to drive to work will not be worth it.

[xeroinfinity]

Sorry to here you had to sell your car BrodyP!
That bites man!

I had saw where the minimum wage increase was shot down last week, thats pretty selfish of our Government.

The cost of living has greatly increased beyond the average saleries in america, I know its going to get tougher on all of us. Wheather you drive or not, groceries and even thier electricity.

I'm pretty fortunate I can walk to work, and my electric comes from solar.

Granted I paid $60k for my solar equipment, but in a couple more years, I'll be making money from my power company with free electric power. Now only to get an electric car that can drive all day without a charge

[BrodyP]

Pretty neat I have yet to meet somone one smart enough to utalize the sun for power. Yes your are 100% right the money spent will come back many fold in the future for you especially at the rate of which oil is increasing. I have been very interested in solar and wind energy for some time now. Such great simple way to create power. If only the government was run by scientist would we have the benefits the earth provides for free. Money is the root the heart of it all. But each of us can find our own ways to put money in our pockets. We wont change the fabric the world is run but every little bit helps us all.

[Toksin]

Xero: selling back to the grid? niiiice...

I'm starting to wonder how much of this oil price crap is legit and how much is bullshit just to make a profit.

[xeroinfinity]

Originally Posted by Toksin

Xero: selling back to the grid? niiiice...

I'm starting to wonder how much of this oil price crap is legit and how much is bullshit just to make a profit.

Selling back to the grid, thats correct.
My solar panels work down to 40% of daylight,
thats with 220/24Vlt drycell batteries,
and solar solutions cpu managment syst.


If you ask me, ITs all profit to the oil Tycooons

The oil shipped in from other countries is very cheap, I heard its less than $1 a barrel and what was it going for today on the NYSE , $75-80 a barrel ?!

How many gallons of fuel can be made from that 1 barrel of crude oil? More than 55 gals I'd bet.

We need cars that run on gas fumes, not LP or Natural, I guess thats still using petrolium

Damn petro is in everything ,
even cloths are partially plastic.
Cds Dvds its endless, and soon,
we are all going to be like the dinosaurs , extinct

[bluevp00]

BP shutting down it's little pipeline in Alaska is total BS. Oil companies KNOW that corrossion happens to pipelines, and usually, to keep the oil flowing, they have backup pipe to divert the oil flow for a short time until they repair the broken line.

But...BP, who is making record profits now (as are all other oil companies), saw this as a opportunity to make even more money. They knew the media woud freak out, and of course they did, with stories of "Skyrocketing gas prices sure to come". Come on, 400,000 barrels per day stopped? The U.S. alone uses more than 25 million barrels per day, not to mention how much the global consumption is per day, 400K barrels isn't a lot. At least not enough to send gas prices more than 5 cents higher.

[MT-2500]

Originally Posted by xeroinfinity

Figured everyones heard that the pipelines shut down and our fuel costs are going to skyrocket.

Well, this afternoon I spoke with a manager at a local BP(who uses this pipeline) and he said with in a couple weeks gas will be $4 or more a galon in the U.S.

And from what the news(cnn, msnbc) is saying everything will go up because of this shut down.
Not to mention that that bombing going on in Israel last week hit a petro tanker and some oil fields got hit too.

So, my 2025 "gas wars" conspiracy theory still holds fast.

So are any of you doing anything different now?

Or will you be doing things different when gas prices go higher then minimum wage ??

I know I will stop driving any excess,
and my towing charges are goin up too.

They are a Dam big bunch of crooks.
We need to start hanging them with a new rope and some of that crap would stop.
MT

[xeroinfinity]

Well last night I heard on the news that BP was going to shut "some" lines down , but would keep some open as they done the repairs.

I know I hav seen a couple shows in the past year talking about the conditions of the pipe lines, and they hav been bad for years. They run that pig thing through the pipes regularly to check for cracks and I guess it can clean the inside of the pipe.

I think it is all BS too. Seems like someone is just hyping up everyone through the news. Maybe just to inflate the prices even more

And its not just BP making a killing on profits, they all are ripping us off.
Gas shouldnt be more than $1 a gal.

[BigFig15]

has all this B.S. with the price of gas happend in the early 90's with the crap going on in the Middle East and Hurricane Andrew? I was like 5 or 6 at the time.

[xeroinfinity]

Originally Posted by BigFig15

has all this B.S. with the price of gas happend in the early 90's with the crap going on in the Middle East and Hurricane Andrew? I was like 5 or 6 at the time.

YES ! THis has happened over the years repeatedly. Everytime we strike up a war and about everytime we get hurricans that cause damage, the price has went up and up and up.

I remember the 70's when thier were gas shortages and outragous prices :disapointed

Its all just a government scam to suck our wallets dry.

I still find it all redundant. The cost of living has gone up steady for the past 15-20yrs, yet the minimum wage has not increased in several yrs to compensate for the costs of living

We all just need to quit buying excess fuel and stop buying comodities that only feed the rich mans pockets.
DONT FEED THE PIG

[MT-2500]

Originally Posted by xeroinfinity

YES ! THis has happened over the years repeatedly. Everytime we strike up a war and about everytime we get hurricans that cause damage, the price has went up and up and up.

I remember the 70's when thier were gas shortages and outragous prices :disapointed

Its all just a government scam to suck our wallets dry.

I still find it all redundant. The cost of living has gone up steady for the past 15-20yrs, yet the minimum wage has not increased in several yrs to compensate for the costs of living

We all just need to quit buying excess fuel and stop buying comodities that only feed the rich mans pockets.
DONT FEED THE PIG

10-4 on he 1970's
I was working and leased to a big trucking company.
Gas prices doubled from .50 cents to 1.00 $ gallon.
and they had a 10 gallon limit at the station.
The gas distributers came around to the trucking company and said they still had plenty of gas and would let them have whatever or how much they wanted at the old price.
Dam crooks had gas running out there ears and sitting everywhere they could store it up and had the nerve to limit fill up at the station. even on old rusty barges that was leaking warter into it.
The trucking company went out and bought 2 - 20K gallon tanks and the gas distributer came out and filled them up at 50 cents a gallon.

They were dam crooks back then and are Big Dam crooks now.
My two cents worth.
MT

[xeroinfinity]

I was just a kid in the 70's when they did that.
I do remember vividly my dad saying " GD ! Gas prices doubled and this towns outa fuel" .
We went to another town and had to wait forever, and thier were guys from the station filling your/the cars with the limit. No ifs ands or buts !

Has anyone set a limit on what the top price you'll pay before you stop buying it?

I quit at $4. thats just plain stupid to feed them ashole oil tycoons.
Thats what I need is a couple 1000 gal tanks,
just buy it straight from the source at wholesale,
and cut out the middle man.
If it were only that simple

[YogsVR4]

When there is a viable alternative to gasoline to run my cars, truck and boats I'll consider not buying their gas.

[BNaylor]

A couple of years ago USA Today published an article about all this sand oil up in Alberta, Canada. I can't recall the news show (60 Minutes?) but the issue was recently brought up again. Supposedly, we have similar oil deposits of this nature in the Western US. Check it out.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...il-sands_x.htm

I have not seen any impact from the Alaska oil line issue in my area. The prices did not skyrocket and as usual the media blew it out of proportion. I noticed this weekend prices dropped a few pennies.