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Old 08-08-2006, 12:52 AM
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Roadgoing Gulf Racer

Has anyone got more detail on the 1995 Gulf GTR that was converted for road use? I know it was not converted by Mclaren and have heard that is was not a very thoroug conversion.
Ay pictures of it post conversion and where is it now?

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Old 08-08-2006, 08:11 AM
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Re: Roadgoing Gulf Racer

The one that was kept in Gulf livery you mean? 012R? Its now in the US. I do have pics but imageshack isn't working for me.
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:14 PM
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i saw this at Coys Historic Festival at Silverstone a few years ago....




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Re: Roadgoing Gulf Racer

Yep. Thats the one i was thinking of
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Re: Roadgoing Gulf Racer

We're talking 1995 GTRs, not 1996's though. #02R would be the chassis in question and there is a small photo of it at the top of the "Recap of the English F1 fleet" thread. This car competed in the 1996 British GT series in a blue and yellow livery similar to how it looks now, and also wore the Lloyds livery at one race. Last known owner was Paul Lanzante, but it's been about a decade since then. I had a contact who was set to tell me more about this car recently, but so far haven't gotten anything back.

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Re: Roadgoing Gulf Racer

Thats the one Poleton, contacted Lanzante about 2 years ago regarding the conversion but he informed me that all the surplus bits removed had been disposed of and they had not kept a photographic record of the conversion.
I was trying to get a handle on trying to find and contact the owner with a view to carrying out a detailed poto session as I am planning on building a large scale 1995 Gulf GTR, failing that I have permission to photograph 10R but do not know what differences there will be.

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Re: Roadgoing Gulf Racer

Links to the pictures of 02R an 14R are not visible to me.

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Old 08-08-2006, 04:01 PM
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Re: Roadgoing Gulf Racer

Here a link to a photo that i took in 2001 at FOS in England the car came from the USA at the time but was staying in England as it was going to be sold.

At the time a picture appreared in the magazine it said it was cassis 012 here a link to a photo



It was coverted from the race Gulf car and the owner drove it to Le Mans one year he was a well know driver.

http://image62.webshots.com/162/6/23...3AxlKrX_ph.jpg


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Old 08-08-2006, 05:31 PM
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Re: Roadgoing Gulf Racer

I doubt you'll get to photograph 002R. It is in the UK though
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Re: Roadgoing Gulf Racer

Am I right in saying the other 1995 Gulf cars are in the USA?

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Re: Roadgoing Gulf Racer

No - I don't think so. The two other '95 Gulf cars were #04R and #08R.

Chassis #08R became the West Adrenaline car and is now believed to be in Bahrain after a road conversion and respray to match the LM.

Chassis #04R is missing in action as far as I can tell, but that was the car which was heavily damaged in a crash at Monza in 1995 and #08R replaced it.

The official race history from McLaren claims that #04R was revived for a 1996 JGTC race at Mine circuit, but I've always wondered if maybe that was an error.

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Re: Roadgoing Gulf Racer

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No - I don't think so. The two other '95 Gulf cars were #04R and #08R.

Chassis #08R became the West Adrenaline car and is now believed to be in Bahrain after a road conversion and respray to match the LM.

Chassis #04R is missing in action as far as I can tell, but that was the car which was heavily damaged in a crash at Monza in 1995 and #08R replaced it.

The official race history from McLaren claims that #04R was revived for a 1996 JGTC race at Mine circuit, but I've always wondered if maybe that was an error.

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As far as i can remember there was no 1995 Gulf car coverted to road use the only was the 1996.

12R and 15R were also a Gulf car from the 1996 series


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Re: Roadgoing Gulf Racer

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No - I don't think so. The two other '95 Gulf cars were #04R and #08R.

Chassis #08R became the West Adrenaline car and is now believed to be in Bahrain after a road conversion and respray to match the LM.

Chassis #04R is missing in action as far as I can tell, but that was the car which was heavily damaged in a crash at Monza in 1995 and #08R replaced it.

The official race history from McLaren claims that #04R was revived for a 1996 JGTC race at Mine circuit, but I've always wondered if maybe that was an error.

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Erik, 04R Was crashed and destroyed at Jarama 95.
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Erik, 04R Was crashed and destroyed at Jarama 95.
As in written off?
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Re: Roadgoing Gulf Racer

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Erik, 04R Was crashed and destroyed at Jarama 95.
Ahhh - it seems this car was badly crashed at two races in a row. I didn't have any record of #04R participating at Jarama, however I just looked through the 1995 GT Endurance book and it mentions:

"There should have been six McLarens on the grid, with the addition of the GRT team's new F1 GTR for Fabien Giroix and Moody Fayed's Mach 1 GTR for Justin Bell and Andy Wallace. One was lost, though, as Lindsay Owne-Jones had a major crash on the downhill section, losing control at over 150 km/h then hitting the barrier and rolling the car over."

One question though - you say "destroyed" but McLaren say it replaced #14R at the final race in the JGTC series in 1996. That wouldn't be the first error that McLaren have made, but do you know if it's accurate or what the real answer might be?

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