Motoring and Common Cause

[Layla's Keeper]

Hello all.

I'm sure all of you have never seen me before, as this is my first post. At first I wasn't sure I'd even register, but then I saw something that I really enjoyed seeing.

Lil'Fame's Chevy Nova getting compliments and even defense from import guys.

In my area, it's supposedly common law amongst the older crowd that the domestics and the imports don't mix. At my school, however, those of us with modified cars all help each other, no matter what badge is on the hood. There's a common idea here; we like fast cars and we like working on cars.

It's that sort of thing that I try to tell the old crowd, and the really young crowd since it works both ways. For example.

Old timer with all steel Deuce higboy: Them kids with their japmobiles don't know what they're talking about. They don't work on their cars for real like I had to when I was their age.

Ricer with automatic Civic hatcback: Those old f**ks don't have a clue. They ain't real. This is the s**t right here.

I don't see that here. And I like it. Thanks for showing that there is hope in the auto community. Now, I just need to find out if Royale Blue, non-overdrive 1970 MGB GT's with the factory knock-off 52 spoke wire wheels. That's my ride, and it will have Webers when I can afford them.

[street_racer_00]

We don't have that problem where I live. There is plenty of inter-manufacturer bonding. We can appreciate both imports and domestics without any drama.

[Layla's Keeper]

I'm glad to hear you don't have that problem. It runs rampant in the Greater Cleveland, Ohio area. It's really a shame.

[street_racer_00]

I think it is due to the fact that I live in a small town that helps, so ANY cool cars are a rare sight I mean there is some bias between the muscleheads and the riceboys, but not to the extent that they can't coexist in the same enviornment without beating eachothers brains in.

[|Banchi1O5|]

i live in a town of about 11,000 and theres plenty of modded rides - of course i check em all out
ill even go over to all the guys with there lil modded civics and stuff
and i still respect the time they put into it - but i make sure they know i couldnt care less for it because its rice - but then theyll make fun of me and its all good fun and well all go race together

i could fight all day why i dont like japanese cars
but if one wants to come to me and talk autoz well be doing it

at the end of the day
were all still car nutz!

[street_racer_00]

hmmm, well where I live, I am in the minority. Most of the guys drive old built 350 novas or chevelles, mustangs, camaros etc. There are a couple of civics with engine swaps, fuel management, the works, etc. But for the most part, the old muscle cars are the things to have (goes with the demographic of my area I suppose).

[Layla's Keeper]

Glad to hear it, the respect for the work I mean. I admit that there are a lot of over-hyped Japanese cars. But I think that there are a few that have some merit. If you'll hear me out. (intelligent opinion alert: This is not an uninformed attack)

1: 1968 Toyota 2000GT: Remember this gorgeous, inexpensive, horribly undersold coupe? It was designed by Albrecht Goertz, who also designed the BMW 507 and another succesful beauty. Not to mention this is the only Japanese car Bond has ever been seen in. (custom convertible in "The Living Daylights")
2: Datsun 240Z: The stopgap in sports car performance between Corvettes and MG's in the early Seventies. It was cheap, thrilling, comfortable, practical, and was also designed by Albrecht Goertz.
3: Datsun 510: Okay, not a straight-line terror. (what 1.6 liter SOHC is?) but the handling of this little rear-drive coupe with its independent rear-suspension. (unheard of in 1969-1970 on a car this cheap or small) Plus the Ray Brock prepped BRE 510 that ran in the under 2.0L Trans-Am of 1970 were pretty cars in their red and white paint.
4: Mazda RX-7: The car deserves credit for perfecting an engine theory that was only successful with one other manufacturer, NSU in Germany. The rotory does work very well, although it's a little thirsty.

This might not change your opinion of Japanese cars in general, but there are worthwhile ones. No better than any other classic, no worse. Just classic.

[-The Stig-]

i've always liked japanese cars, i like some (key word: some) of the hopped up hondas and nissans and what not.


what i cant stand is the riceboy people, meaning the guys who think they're the shit and that their cars will beat anything. the type of guys that if you drive up in a domestic and compliment their car, and they give you attitude like you're nothing to them. thats what makes me want to get my 4x4 truck and turn their cars into a 300 something a month cookie sheet.



of course im biased to the domestics i just think they're the bestest carz ever! hahaha.

[Polygon]

I know what you mean. There are far too many ignorant people that don't know anything about other people’s cars and so they comment by saying some immature comment that car is a POS without knowing anything about it. I wish there were more people out there that could have the mentality that you talked about. I like both imports and domestics. Once day when I have a ridiculously large car collection it will have plenty of both.

[Layla's Keeper]

Hey Polygon, your GTC, have you put any Shelby GLH (Goes Like Hell) parts on the suspension? My Dad has owned two 1985 Omni GLH's and they were some of the wildest boxes on wheels I can recall without talking about something WAYYYY obscure or exotic like a Renault R5 Turbo or Metro 6R4. I think they might be the same car.... But anyway, the GLH was the best handling car in America in 1985, with skidpad numbers that embarrass the C4 Corvette. I think it was .87g (Vette which I can't confirm that year) to .92g (GLH which my Dad loves quoting)

Also, nobody's commented on Layla, my MG. Funny story how she got that name. I was trying to get the tachometer to work since it had shorted out (damn Lucas electrics) and when I rewired it, the radio came on. By pure chance, Layla by Derek and the Dominoes (you know, Eric Clapton and Duane Allman) came on. Since the song is English and from 1970, and the car is English and from 1970, the name just stuck.

Redneck383, you've got a point about Honda riceboys. They usually have no idea what they're talking about. The thing is, they don't limit it to domestic guys. They thumb their noses at older imports, traditional sports cars, imports where most of the money is in functional parts, and just about anyone who does something different. (ie, drifters with 240SX's) They aren't the real import crowd. Too bad a lot of real import guys end up rolling with them in my area because the domestic guys don't want to give a second look to their cars.

[Polygon]

Originally posted by Octagon
Hey Polygon, your GTC, have you put any Shelby GLH (Goes Like Hell) parts on the suspension? My Dad has owned two 1985 Omni GLH's and they were some of the wildest boxes on wheels I can recall without talking about something WAYYYY obscure or exotic like a Renault R5 Turbo or Metro 6R4. I think they might be the same car.... But anyway, the GLH was the best handling car in America in 1985, with skidpad numbers that embarrass the C4 Corvette. I think it was .87g (Vette which I can't confirm that year) to .92g (GLH which my Dad loves quoting)

He is one lucky guy, I love those GLHs. I have the same suspension but since my car as a little bit heavier I only get .89 in the skidpad. Any car that got the turbo II had the same suspension I believe. Man I love those 2.2L turbo Mopars.

[fatninja19]

It's also quite stupid when someone flys by and cuts you off real bad after you beat them in a race... or when someone gets mad when they lose and gives you a dirty look or flips you off.... Shit! don't fucking race if you're scared of losing!

[street_racer_00]

Do you whoop much ass in your minivan?

[-The Stig-]

Originally posted by street_racer_00
Do you whoop much ass in your minivan?

i bet it could give that Nissan of yours a run for its money!

Never underestimate the crazy driver in the Minivan... I've seen Soccer Mommy's do things that would embariss most Corvette Owners... and it all usually all happens pulling into the school zones to drop of lil Tiffinany with her Science project with Macorony Salad glued on with Elmer's.


as i always say... Crazy beats Brawn (we need spell check on this thing!) anytime.

[fatninja19]

hahahahaha... umm.. why.. um.. of course? hahha

well I stayed ahead of a four door, four cylinder, new style accord up to 55, then i had to turn. He had a five speed, 17's, and at least an exhaust. I didn't even power brake.

and um..

I beat a new auto 2 dr. honda civic, butt that guy was a piece of shit driver.

one more that has any signifigance is against my friends tip tronic base RSX. all stock. I power braked on him, and got the best launch I can with my minivan, and stayed ahead of him untill about 75( where he then proceeded to pull me like mad).

Other than that, the van is just fine for cruising around.