Is this bull? Re:" Ground Voltage Stabilizer "

[alkemist]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GROUN...QQcmdZViewItem

This stabilizer is advertised so colorfully with a bunch of bullshit in my opinion. How can it improve performance, fuel economy and engine response all at once?

Would a 1996 car even need such a thing?

[UncleBob]

you didn't really need someone to say it, but I will.

Its a bunch of bull.

I love this quote "Furthermore it improves electrification performance"

Electrification performance? That sounds pretty impressive!

[Racincc85]

I bet that thing would just internally short out and blow up your battery. That's all I can see it being good for.

[alkemist]

Originally Posted by Racincc85

I bet that thing would just internally short out and blow up your battery. That's all I can see it being good for.

Yea Im thinking alike... more of a danger to our cars than a benefit

[Black Lotus]

"It improves accumulation of electricity performance substantially and the case where electric load increases it prevents powering down"
If that isn't the Kings English, I don't know what is........

[pimprolla112]

They have proven that they work with sport compacts. Better grounding will net better power in the end so it is possible. It was like 8-12hp depending on brand, model and car. But this looks like they took random shit and put it together to try to sell something. Its not as bad as the gas line magnets, or the tornado/turbonator/any other piece of shit soda can turned bent sheet metal that does nothing more than swirl the air which does nothing since the engines intake and throttle body create turbulence in the air path.

[UncleBob]

Originally Posted by pimprolla112

They have proven that they work with sport compacts. Better grounding will net better power in the end so it is possible. It was like 8-12hp depending on brand, model and car..

uh no. It was 8-12Hp depending on how screwed up your car was.

You can not "add" ground capacity to a car unless the ground is fubar'd. If its fubar'd then you should fix it, not add useless black boxes that do something simular

[corning_d3]

Looks like 4-5 small capacitors in series...

[pimprolla112]

I should have made that clearer im talking electronic power not engine power. The elctrical system will see a benifit but only from the increase in current it can run through the wires. I cant remembe which magazine but the grounding kits did almost nothing the grounding kits with voltage stabalizer did help but like i said 8-12 well 8 was average more like 5-12hp.

I wouldnt buy it and expect a 1 sec drop off 1/4 mile times or much of a feeling like it did anything. These kits arent complete bs like more of the other junk there selling on ebay.

[Moppie]

Originally Posted by pimprolla112

I should have made that clearer im talking electronic power not engine power. The elctrical system will see a benifit but only from the increase in current it can run through the wires. I cant remembe which magazine but the grounding kits did almost nothing the grounding kits with voltage stabalizer did help but like i said 8-12 well 8 was average more like 5-12hp.

I don't know what sort of car you drive, but mine uses an internal combustion engine.

[pimprolla112]

let me search to see if i can find the article. Im not saying it will be something you will notice. And i do agree it is mostly BS.

But better grounding will help the cars electronic equipment. When im installing any kind of car audio i will upgrade the ground wires. And the power wire from the battery to alternator.

[Black Lotus]

If you have electrical sensors on your engine that report to the ECU (computer) it is helpful to have them all on the same ground plane. As an example, if you have an electrical sensor mounted on an intake tube that is made of plastic or rubber it would have a different ground reference than a sensor that is mounted directly to the cylinder head. The sensor that is mounted to the cylinder head maybe grounded (different ground plane) differently than the ECU. Thus, the voltage outputs from the different sensors would be skewed from what the manufacturer intended--and your engine runs strange.
The sensors are normally grounded just fine from the factory but age does and corrosion takes a toll electrically on the wiring harness.
So it doesn't hurt to interlink the grounds from all the engine components back to the ECU to make sure everything is on the same ground plane.
But this is basically patching up a system that could be fixed by carefully cleaning all the electrical connections in the engine compartment (but it is easier to just run ground straps everywhere).

[pimprolla112]

But all electronics whther mounted in rubber, plastic or metal all get grounded to one common location. The chassis. I wasnt talking in terms of the eletrical sensors. I was refering more or less to the alternator and battery. When upgrading the grounds you give the whole system the ability to run smoother. Voltage spikes are common when anything electronic is turned on a/c, lights, fan. These all draw power with the larger wire you give it less of a chance of dropping voltage by providing a free flow of current.

[Andrew84]

Well, all that being said about BS voltage stabilizers, please take a look at this:

http://www.adhoc-tech-sci.com/pd-vs-aa.html


And this discussion between me and a fellow member:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...=1#post6805246

[gremlin96]

hmm i did the same thing on most of the old cars i owned. took about 3 ft of wire and some lugs. just cleaned a spot grounded the motor to the frame and body. it happens over the years the ground wires get bad. so redoing a few grounds puts every thing back on the same ground plane. now does it make more hp, nope, does it save fuel, nope. what it does is make every light bulb and electronic device run a bit better. thats it.