Strokin? Need some advice

[Thor06]

So as many of you know, I spun a bearing in my Talon and I am going to be rebuilding this winter. Well, I was just thinking while I was takin a piss, why not just stroke it? My original plan was to go with a 1g rod and whatever forged 8.5:1 compression pistons I could get for cheap. Stroking probably wont cost much or any more than the rebuild anyway since that crank might be junk. That rod was knocking hard, I wouldnt be suprised to see somee deep scars. So heres what I think. More baseline power/torque and rediculous spool. I am planning on getting a 50 trim or 60 trim (not 60-1) bastard will spool quick. I know that I wont be able to rev out that far, but I dont care too much because I dont think my tranny can handle shifts at 8500 anyway. Basically, I dont see any negatives to stoking so I think might go for it. What do you guys think?

[scottsee]

I think if you stoke it you should go to Hyundai and order a new factory crank from their 92 2.4l Sonata, or find on in a junk yard and save a lot of $$ from going with a Mits or Eagle shaft.

keep in mind that 9/10 women prefer having it stroked. So, with that information alone I would say "make it so"..

[defiancy]

I have no regrets over it. I can't rev as high, but I can spool a big ass turbo before 4k.

And I have more baseline power than a non-stroker. I think stroker is the best way to go unless you are going to make a super hardcore dragster, which most of us aren't.

[Thor06]

Yeah, I think I am going to do it. Remanned cranks with bearings are $350 from SBR, I think I am going to do that. I could get a junk yard crank, but I am a little weary of just throwing it in and I dont really trust anyone around here to machine it. I think my plan is that is my stock crank is ok to just put right back in, I'll do that but if my crank is junk, I will just stroke it. Man, that 16g is going to be spooled basically all the time. How far do you 2.3 guys rev out?

[defiancy]

Originally Posted by Thor06

Yeah, I think I am going to do it. Remanned cranks with bearings are $350 from SBR, I think I am going to do that. I could get a junk yard crank, but I am a little weary of just throwing it in and I dont really trust anyone around here to machine it. I think my plan is that is my stock crank is ok to just put right back in, I'll do that but if my crank is junk, I will just stroke it. Man, that 16g is going to be spooled basically all the time. How far do you 2.3 guys rev out?

It's pretty close to stock . I asked my shop about the REV limit when I was building my stroker, and they said that you'll be fine ususing the stock tach for reference on your redline. The big difference comes in the destroker really.


Well if you are going to stroke it, you can't use your stock crank, you are going to need to get a 2.4 crank. You should be able to get one cheaper than 350. I bought mine from a shop for like 200 bucks.

[E-Klips]

Strokers are decent but are more expensive than finding a 4g64 block and crank then adding eagle/crower rods and ross/wiseco pistons. Also, the adventure with the 16g isnt going to be as great as you're thinkin. Sure, great fucking spool time but that only leaves one thing left.... Airflow. The turbo wont be able to keep up so in return you will basically be choking the motor. You'd be better off with a 3052 or a 3065.

I wanted to stroke my motor or get a 2.4 so bad but something told me to keep the 2.0 Now with the GT42r on it, I still drive it daily and it spools just fine for me. When racing, I never lose more than 2-3psi between shifts. So dont talk about lag and spooling "big ass turbos" before 4k just because you have a stroked 2.0 or a 2.4

Good luck with whatever you choose.

[Thor06]

Yeah, the 16g will be on there a very short time if on there at all. I'm thinking I am going to make a shopping list and not put the car on the road until it gets like 98% of the way its going to stay. Obviously the rebuild, DSMlink, the bigger turbo (undecided, SBR 50 or 60 trim?), FMIC, injectors, FPR, and fuel pump is what I think I am going to go with before it hits the streets again.

So how about that 2.4 block? Is it a direct put in? If so, that would be a good way to go. Then I could thow the spare 4g63 head on and go. What do you guys think?

Oh, what about the tranny? Direct bolt on?

[defiancy]

Originally Posted by E-Klips

Strokers are decent but are more expensive than finding a 4g64 block and crank then adding eagle/crower rods and ross/wiseco pistons. Also, the adventure with the 16g isnt going to be as great as you're thinkin. Sure, great fucking spool time but that only leaves one thing left.... Airflow. The turbo wont be able to keep up so in return you will basically be choking the motor. You'd be better off with a 3052 or a 3065.

I wanted to stroke my motor or get a 2.4 so bad but something told me to keep the 2.0 Now with the GT42r on it, I still drive it daily and it spools just fine for me. When racing, I never lose more than 2-3psi between shifts. So dont talk about lag and spooling "big ass turbos" before 4k just because you have a stroked 2.0 or a 2.4

Good luck with whatever you choose.

How do you figure they are more expensive? If you are going to stroke a 2.0 the price difference between that and putting forged pistons internals in a 2.4 is very slim.

When you stroke it, all they have to do extra is bore out the motor and you have to buy a new crank.

Even with a 2.4 you are going to still have to take the block to the machine shop and have basicly the same thing done to the block as you would the 2.0 the difference being that you don't have to purchase another crank, and you aren't boring out the cylinders .020 only boring it out to smooth the sides. You still have to do everything else.

The way you are looking at is spend the money for a new block and crank, +parts and do all the same machine work.

Or

Just buy a new crank, +parts and machine work.

Stroking the 2.0 is no more expensive than rebuilding a 2.4 with new parts. Machine work is very inexpensive. And to spend the money to buy a new block along with a new crank will make the 2.4 more costly than the 2.0.

Ontop of that the power gain over of the 2.4 over the 2.3 is minimal at best.

Than you have to worry about compatability issues. IMO the 2.3 stroker is going to cost you the same as the 2.4 idea if not less.

Also, you will noticed a difference in spool time from a 2.0 to a 2.3. Just because your car spools fine on your turbo doesn't mean that a 2.0 and 2.3 are alike on spool times.

[wanaplay134]

would you like to sell that big 16g now cause i will take it off your hands

[blk_srt]

Originally Posted by Thor06

Well, I was just thinking while I was takin a piss, why not just stroke it?

Remember Dustin, if you shake it more than 3 times your just playing with it

2.3 is the way to go. The 4g64 block takes a little work to drop in. If you really wanted to be unique SBR sells 2.4L 4g63 stroker kits but the kit is like $3k

[crunchymilk55]

do not, under any condition, buy anything from slowboy!

[blk_srt]

I have to disagree with cruncky's personal vendetta here.

[crunchymilk55]

Originally Posted by pr_ricer

I have to disagree with cruncky's personal vendetta here.

not just me


go to www.vendors-reviewed.com

go to forums/vendor complaints

grab some popcorn and read. You won't believe what they have done.

[Thor06]

Originally Posted by pr_ricer

Remember Dustin, if you shake it more than 3 times your just playing with it.

LMFAO!!! Thats awesome Scott.

I think I am going to just stroke the 4g63 even if it does cost a little more, I would way rather have the drop in ability and knowing that I have a basically brand new engine. I'll look around for a good 2.4 crank, get some clevite bearings, stay with the 1g rods, the cheapest forged stroker pistons I can get, possibly some SS valves (for nitrous ), probably a water pump and a front cover. I hope I have the funds to get this car running by next year . I know that when I do, its going to be a fucking street terror . Breakin is going to be a great .

[Thor06]

Yeah, the local DSM "wiseman" has gotten stuff from them around 30 times. He said they have been good sometimes, but once he had to wait like 2 months for his clutch for his WRX. He blew the tranny and got a rebuild with a 3 month warranty. Well he had to wait 2 of those 3 months for the clutch. The tranny went out 3 days after the warranty was up. I on the other hand, have had 3 good experiences with them. My metal headgasket was here within a week, the valves and seals were here two day air as promised, and my buddy Mike's auto tensioner was here on Friday after ordering it Tuesday. I dont know, I am going to try to get everything local (when I am in the cities).