First loss... (Knew it but still went ahead)

[jcsaleen]

Had my first wanderer race today just past. I knew it was a definite loss it was me an my corvette friend in the car. I had a full tank of gas an spare in the back an bins were full of stuff too... We line up at about 20. Me an a 350Z turbo we hit it an by 3rd he was about 8 car lengths ahead. I asked him at the light an he said turbonetics kit (don't know how much he was pushing but must have been a good amount). I knew I was going to lose but man it wasn't that big of a loss. Sheesh for 6500 in a 30k car I'm really dissapointed though. The owner was cool gave him beep an he gave me a beep gave me a thumbs up.

[TatII]

the turbonetics kit is great imo. its even better then the Greddy TT kit. you can install the turbonetics kit with the stock exhuast manifold intact, and it route the exhaust gases to the single 60-1 turbo thru the up pipe like a EJ20 fashion from the WRX/STi's.

right off the bat they make 400whp and change.

[jcsaleen]

It's not bad but it wasn't as fast as I thought it would be for 6500$! I'f I had that money I'd have a T04Z an intercooler as well as a boost controller and be running astronimical numbers.

[sportsb4life7]

yes, but your car is a 93.... his its probally an 04+ therefore they havnt made as many kits- and they are more expensive .....and they know if you have 30000 to spend on a car- a 6,000+ turbo/supercharger isnt going to kill you ....

[TatII]

plus on the Z, its making 400+whp running less then 10 psi of boost. and to be honest here in nyc, making over 400whp even in a FD is a pretty big deal. of course there are higher numbers, but 400whp in a FD takes a bit of work too.

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by TatII

of course there are higher numbers, but 400whp in a FD takes a bit of work too.

Not at all a nice intake full exhaust an PFC with some injectors and you will be making 400 rwhp easy (Still running 10).

[TatII]

well rumors say that if you elimate the stock twins from running sequential, you can squeeze 400whp out of them. don't know how well documented that is though.

but if you can't squeeze 400whp out of stock turbos, then you need

either a Power FC as a bare minimum, or a Wolf 3D, etc, larger injectors, larger turbo, the turbo manifold, new downpipe go with the turbo, a larger front mount cause the stock tiny front mount is trash and dyno time.

doesn't sound like little work to me. not to mention you have to deal with the cooling issues that the FD already has stock.

i'm not trying to put down the FD, but putting down the 350z by saying its not that fast even with the twin turbo setup is far fetched.

sorry but 8 cars by 4th gear is like almost 3 bus lenghts. that is a ass whooping if you ask me.

[jcsaleen]

He beat me no doubt but I was FULLY loaded had atleast an extra 300lbs on me. Anyways I know plenty of people who have gotten around 400 rwhp easily out of the twins. A bigger turbo is not nessicary until 500+ if you ask me. With a port job like even a mild street an the right tuning you can run 400+.

Edit: The downpipe is the first thing you do to an FD so as not harm itself because the stock cat is in the dp which cause build up an will eventually hurt the turbo's when high boost occurs.

[TatII]

thats impressive for those tiny turbos then. cause usually when i go to a shop to dyno, ( they're usually rx-7 shops ) most 400whp cars has upgraded turbos, and the rx-7 meet up in white plains, all the 400whp FD's have upgraded turbos as well. and all the stock turboed cars was still in the 300whp range.

but your the one of hte FD, i'm merely a fan with a few friends with rx-7's, so i'll take your word for it ( for now )

[jcsaleen]

I'd definetly be intrested in one of your meet's I'd like to meet some of your buddies with FD's. You are right though most stock twin's with a modded pfc an injects are running around 350rwhp (comfortably though).

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by TatII

either a Power FC as a bare minimum, or a Wolf 3D, etc, larger injectors, larger turbo, the turbo manifold, new downpipe go with the turbo, a larger front mount cause the stock tiny front mount is trash and dyno time.

Doesn't sound like little work to me. not to mention you have to deal with the cooling issues that the FD already has stock.

Here's the fact's for you as far what you MUST do to an FD before you go ahead an start modifying it crazy.

1.Replace AST tank - I have a pettit racing - lowered the oil pressure a little.

2.Replace downpipe with stainless - Had one sold it man I'm an idiot I'm buying a new one

3.Buy a boost guage! (very important to see what your engine is running) - I have anice autometer works great an matches my interior.

4.Replace Hoses with silicon hoses stockers get cracked due to high heat - Got blue ones hehe+ - make sure you boil them good though if there soft!

5.Stock intake - I have an hks superflow+

6.Catback - The stock sucks ass more strictive - I have a racing beat DT (very quiet)

- I recommend replacing all the clamps with with stainless adjustable ones the factory suck ass.

So if you ever get one lol you know...

[-The Stig-]

I almost bought a FD when I was car shopping last year and bought the LS1 Z28... I was affraid of reliability issues... had I known the Z28 was going to give me hell, I would of gone the route of the RX-7.

[98BlackTransAm]

Originally Posted by jcsaleen

Had my first wanderer race today just past. I knew it was a definite loss it was me an my corvette friend in the car. I had a full tank of gas an spare in the back an bins were full of stuff too... We line up at about 20. Me an a 350Z turbo we hit it an by 3rd he was about 8 car lengths ahead. I asked him at the light an he said turbonetics kit (don't know how much he was pushing but must have been a good amount). I knew I was going to lose but man it wasn't that big of a loss. Sheesh for 6500 in a 30k car I'm really dissapointed though. The owner was cool gave him beep an he gave me a beep gave me a thumbs up.

8 carlengths is a pretty big loss, but yeah if it were just you in the car it probly would've been a few less..either way $36k in a car should be a lot faster imo. if I put that much $$ into my car (including the cost of the car itself) it had better be running 10's, if not less.

[TatII]

can't compare the cost of a brand new car to a used car.

even when new the LS1 cost around 25K okay. but the car feels cheap as hell, and your basically just buying a body and the engine. the 350Z is much much more refined in everyway compared to the LS1. it cost more because more engineering went into it and its made of better materials.

but reguardless spending 36K on any car will make you run tens, i can do that with 15K if i went cheap and bought a 240sx hatch back.

the only difference is, most hatchbacks now are rusting away with flimsy chassis, with outdated interiors and worn bushing everywhere with slight electrical problems , crack dash etc.

buying a 350Z is buying a brand new car. can't compare new car to used cars. if you want to say that a 36K 400whp 350z is pro bang for the buck.

then fine, how about a 44K shelby GT stang that can't even take down a regular C6 vette? they both cost 10K more then that Z. yes the Z will handle better then the stang, and will leave the stock C6 in the straight line.

[98BlackTransAm]

and then you can always spend $65k on a new boxter that isn't any faster than the Z