since motorex is closed

[sgdtr2989]

who does that leave me with as RI's for the skyline, RBMotring and wasnt there one other? BTW, ive heard some things about legalizing the skyline before it gets shipped to the states, does anybody have any info on that?

[TrAutomotiveWorks]

Hi sgdtr2989, to answer your question about legalizing the Skylines before leaving the ports at Japan is cheaper and that´s how I usually do it actually. The only problem is that you have to have someone over there in Japan who can do all the paperwork and go and legalize it.

I have brought about 4 cars that way, 2 of which I sold and I am selling another one right now. I have only though legalized one s15 with the car being over here and it was a paaaaain, and it is also on the list of cars that can´t REALLY be legalized, hmmm.

Anyway I might bring some cars over here like Motorex (without the big hefty price though) and sell them, who knows maby start a business. Anyway if a lot of people want those cars I just might, and that´s because I have someone over in Japan who sends me and legalizes the cars over there.

Regards,
Esteban Soto
TR Automotive Works

[jas4811]

Originally Posted by TrAutomotiveWorks

Hi sgdtr2989, to answer your question about legalizing the Skylines before leaving the ports at Japan is cheaper and that´s how I usually do it actually. The only problem is that you have to have someone over there in Japan who can do all the paperwork and go and legalize it.

I have brought about 4 cars that way, 2 of which I sold and I am selling another one right now. I have only though legalized one s15 with the car being over here and it was a paaaaain, and it is also on the list of cars that can´t REALLY be legalized, hmmm.

Anyway I might bring some cars over here like Motorex (without the big hefty price though) and sell them, who knows maby start a business. Anyway if a lot of people want those cars I just might, and that´s because I have someone over in Japan who sends me and legalizes the cars over there.

Regards,
Esteban Soto
TR Automotive Works

You CANNOT "Federally" legalize a car from the port of origin. The car must be "Federally" legalized thru an RI in the States. What your guy is doing it tampering witht he paperwork prior to the car shipping. There are many many people and many claims of being able to import a vehicle into the US and legalizing it. There is an RI who can do the legalization, but they are charging $20-50k for a R33.

Every state has their own motor vehicle law and may it be leinent or strict, people find ways around them.

I am no way doubting that you can bring in vehicles and being able to title them, but you should in no way shape or form advertise that you can bring them in legally. Who will be responsible for if the vehicle get repossed by US Customs? There was a recent repossesion in Texas of a R34 V-Spec Nur.

R34's are no longer on the import list and 96-98 R33's needs a OBDII system, unless you have come up with a way to make a R33 compatible and you got the R34 back on the import list you are NOT selling a FEDERALLY LEGALIZED Skyline.

You should disclose that CA and WA states run vin numbers prior to being able to register them (other states are starting also), if there are no DOT and EPA paperwork, you can't register it and certain insurance companies require DOT and EPA paperwork also.

John

[sgdtr2989]

Originally Posted by jas4811

You CANNOT "Federally" legalize a car from the port of origin. The car must be "Federally" legalized thru an RI in the States. What your guy is doing it tampering witht he paperwork prior to the car shipping. There are many many people and many claims of being able to import a vehicle into the US and legalizing it. There is an RI who can do the legalization, but they are charging $20-50k for a R33.

Every state has their own motor vehicle law and may it be leinent or strict, people find ways around them.

I am no way doubting that you can bring in vehicles and being able to title them, but you should in no way shape or form advertise that you can bring them in legally. Who will be responsible for if the vehicle get repossed by US Customs? There was a recent repossesion in Texas of a R34 V-Spec Nur.

R34's are no longer on the import list and 96-98 R33's needs a OBDII system, unless you have come up with a way to make a R33 compatible and you got the R34 back on the import list you are NOT selling a FEDERALLY LEGALIZED Skyline.

You should disclose that CA and WA states run vin numbers prior to being able to register them (other states are starting also), if there are no DOT and EPA paperwork, you can't register it and certain insurance companies require DOT and EPA paperwork also.

John

well, so much for the trick of legalization in japan, but thanks for warning me that its really dangerous. ive noticed that right about the time that i could actually buy something from motorex, it goes under and rumours of the next nissan gt-r is being priced at $70,000 start to surface. ill stop before it becomes a full blown conspiracy theory.

[jas4811]

Originally Posted by sgdtr2989

well, so much for the trick of legalization in japan, but thanks for warning me that its really dangerous. ive noticed that right about the time that i could actually buy something from motorex, it goes under and rumours of the next nissan gt-r is being priced at $70,000 start to surface. ill stop before it becomes a full blown conspiracy theory.

If you are looking for a legalized GTR contact RB, I know they have one for sale or they can let you know if anyone is selling theirs.

John

[tyndago]

RB Motoring is an RI, but they are not importing Skylines themselves.

There is no other real option. No way to federally legalize a car.

Check this link - http://tyndago.googlepages.com/gt-rlegalization

[vectorspecialist]

ther's a way to leagalize your own skyline, tho it does have to be a 96-98 r33, no r32s or r34s, and you have to go to d.c. a few times, you also have to be able to prove that the car, if you want to start a buisness, is capable of turning a profit, which the answer is NO, it's to expensive, just wait 2 yrs and get the gtr for 70g, and slap a nameplate SKYLINE on the back, and you've gotten one cheaper, trust me, it's painful and aganizing to import a skyline, and if you're in new jersey, you have to change it to left hand drive no if ands or buts. you can importr it as a show car, which then it's not road leagal, and can have 2,500 miles per year put on it, and must have a reason for being brought here and put for show, historical reasons basically, like an old ferrari or something

[blight]

what about MN up here there is alomost everything we got like 3 skylines in Mn right now. i don't knwo how these guys are gettign them exactly. But couldn't one take one from canada and just drive the fer down to mn and register it there? or does that not work???

btw we do not have ANY emissions here in mn. and we have almsot no restrictions on anything here. hence all the damn fiero's with kit cars

[vectorspecialist]

u could drive it into the usa, but u still have to meet all the emmisions of the country, nomatter wat state law says. i'm in NJ, i don't know of any here. i called down to trenton where our big state dmv is, and they said that to bring a rhd car into jersey from another country, it has to be made left hand drive, no matter wat. another thing about just driving the car in, the government will stop u at the border, and not allow it across without paperwork showing it being usa leagle already. i don't know how to make it leagle, what it needs, i know that because motorex already did the crash tests, i assume it didn't need anything for safty, but epa, i know i doesn't come near. if you know of someone with a skyline, ask them to see the paperwork, or just ask them how they got it here. there are two loopholes, #1 coming home from serving in the military, and having bought one in japan. the government will make sure it gets thru. the second, from wat i understand is the more expensive, but still cheaper than motorex was, it involves a lot tho. have a company in japan take the car apart, seperate the engine and trans, and make the body and chassis just a shell, then import it. then reasmble it as a kit car. if you've ever heard of the car company nobel(advertised in the back of most auto mags) that's how they import their cars.

[Real GTR]

Originally Posted by vectorspecialist

u could drive it into the usa, but u still have to meet all the emmisions of the country, nomatter wat state law says. i'm in NJ, i don't know of any here. i called down to trenton where our big state dmv is, and they said that to bring a rhd car into jersey from another country, it has to be made left hand drive, no matter wat. another thing about just driving the car in, the government will stop u at the border, and not allow it across without paperwork showing it being usa leagle already. i don't know how to make it leagle, what it needs, i know that because motorex already did the crash tests, i assume it didn't need anything for safty, but epa, i know i doesn't come near. if you know of someone with a skyline, ask them to see the paperwork, or just ask them how they got it here. there are two loopholes, #1 coming home from serving in the military, and having bought one in japan. the government will make sure it gets thru. the second, from wat i understand is the more expensive, but still cheaper than motorex was, it involves a lot tho. have a company in japan take the car apart, seperate the engine and trans, and make the body and chassis just a shell, then import it. then reasmble it as a kit car. if you've ever heard of the car company nobel(advertised in the back of most auto mags) that's how they import their cars.

There are NO LOOPHOLES.

Please stop spreading mis-information:

#1 If your in the military and what to bring your skyline home the service will only ship it to the nearest port of entry form where you are. Also you have to show that you have a contract with a R.I to bring the car into complayince.

Bottom line it is illegal to dissasemble a skyline and reassemble as a kit car. The EPA and DOT have made that very clear(section 4). http://www.epa.gov/otaq/imports/kitcar.htm

Do people get them in this way Yes, some have gotten cought some haven't it's a roll of the dice illegal is illegal and they can be confiscated if there found to be illegal weither there titled as a kit or not. With the added heat that Motorex has drawn to the skyline it's really bad for them right now even the legal ones.

It is nothing like the 1G bringing the noble in as a kit car. 1G buys the noble from the manufacture in africa disassembled. It is a manufactured vehicle in the UK because it's 100% complete but not here in the US. The noble is assembled here in the US by 3 seperate companys which meet the EPA requirements.

There were a few thing that need to be done to skyline to meet safety standards seat belts, signals, speed o, and a few other key elements.

[cnile51]

vectorspecialist please do more research because you have no idea what your saying. First off the military thing doesn't fly because you can't just say im military and skip all the dot issues. you must go through an RI and go through J& K technoloigies located in MD to legalise your vehicle. You do not have to convert anything to LHd either. Look at the motorex cars and see that none of them are converted. Some things that are changed are bumper supports, glass, obd2 and evap canister things for emmissions. I know all of this because I own a skyline in NJ that is fully legal. I have my dot bond release, registration and insurance card. They all say Nissan Skyline on them... Theres a video on youtube of me getting pulled over as well :-)

[vectorspecialist]

dude the military thing works, they can't make u sell ur car, it's ur property, and i mean they bring it into the country without cost to you, u still have to do the conversions. trust me my friend is a marine, i know someone with a rhd supra from japan, and another with a rhd gto. all were in there navy. as for motorex not having to make it lhd, nj is the only state that wants a lhd skyline. that's wat they said to me wen i called trenton nj dmv. where in nj are u, i'd love to c a skyline. i personally have never seen one in person, well i have seen a gts, but the gtr's are so much better. also i had never even thought of the kit car thing, till i read about the nobel company and on other sites. so i had never even looked up wat has to be done for those. also about being pulled over, did the cop find it different to walk to the rh side ad find it's the drivers side or no. i got pulled in my moms friends jeep(mail truck) but he ddnt, cause it said usps. also i've looked into almost anything in dealing with how to get a gtr into the usa. i've faced and said i'll wait for the gtr.

[Real GTR]

By Federal law any state in the United States can not and is not allowed to make you make a GT-R LHD.

As long as there is a designation in the VIN that the vehicle is RHD which all GT-R's have. There is a link on the DOT site about it I'll post it later if you need it.

Also Cnile glad to see you on automotive, there is an issue with the OBD2 thing, that's what got Motorex in trouble anything 96 or newer has to have it. Motorex was never able to get approval for the system they developed and too this day no one not even J&K have been able to come up with a working and DOT approved OBD2 system.

Only 2 Motorex cars ever got OBD2 but theye were pro-to systems.

[slideways...]

at least 2 of the skylines in minnesota are not federalized. im not sure but i think theres a fourth, a grey r32 that was in duluth a year or so ago that came from canada, but i dont know if it was ever titled or not.

[beatboxn420]

To make this short and simple.. YOU ARE NOT GETTING A SKYLINE SHIPPED AND LEGALIZED TO THE USA. You buy the ones that are already shipped and legalized that are over here already. Or you look around and find the non-legalized Skylines and never be allowed to drive them on the streets.