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Old 08-02-2002, 08:54 PM
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Yamaha YZF R-6 ?

From what I have been reading I see that it is better to start out with a smaller bike, now my body is telling me just buy an R-1 but my brains are telling me that I should buy an R-6 because it is a smaller displacement version of the R-1. Now money is a problem that is kind of pushing me to the R-6 its smaller and less expensive. So I want to see what other people say. Should I get a big extremely fast R-1 or a sleek and sexy R-6?
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Old 08-02-2002, 09:22 PM
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Do you mean "start out" as in you've been riding for a while and are looking at your first *own* bike??? Or do you mean, I am going to learn on this bike???

Cause if you are learning, you should not start out as a beginner on a bike with a known problem with a twitchy throttle!!!

First and foremost: TAKE THE MSF SAFETY COURSE if you haven't already! It will teach you TONS about how to keep your hide off the pavement. It is often free, and you will save yourself thousands in cosmetic surgery if you pass it.

As for bike choice: Start out on something FAR more tame if you plan on riding for long. Go used. You will drop your bike. You will scratch it. And you can get a bike that is 2 years old for thousands less than new. At the VERY highest end, I'd offer you a used CBR 600 for a suggestion, but depending upon your height/weight, maybe stick to a 500cc bike.

Don't forget to set aside a solid $400 for protective gear, as well. Get a good helmet (see "helmet help" thread for ideas), get a leather jacket or a padded ballistic nylon "mesh" jacket, get gloves, get over-the-ankle leather boots. We don't like to lose members, here.

If you have any more questions, please feel free to write back here or PM me.
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Old 08-02-2002, 11:28 PM
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I own a R6 and a R1, and let me tell you the R6 is no joke. Don't let displacement fool you, the R6 is an INCREDIBLY fast 600cc bike, much faster then F4i or gsx equivalent.

Now granted IMO no other bike on the road (-european companies) has the elegant styling of the yams.

But, just like ST said, you WILL drop your bike in the first year you own it several times. There is no "I will be careful" crap, you will always find out the hard way.

And I would difinetely shoot for a mid-low 90s bike, you can pick them up all day for like 3 grand.

If you have never driven a motorcycle before (dirtbikes are NOT motorcycles) then you should wait and take the state safety course. They teach you the ways to react to situations that you need to know about.

BTW, if you are scrapping for money to get a R6, take in consideration all aspects. You now need GEAR, starts at $400. Insurance, on a sports bike will cost you about $6000 a year for medium coverage from a name brand company. In most states it is agaisnt the law to just have liability coverage as well.

A 12 second motorcycle is common as day (excluding harley), so don't think since it maybe a little old it will be slow. And 12 second 1/4mile is viper eating territory...
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If I am 5'6'' and 175 pounds would the R6 "fit" me?
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Old 08-03-2002, 05:37 PM
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Your balls are bigger then your brains. The R6 is a faster bike then you can handle.
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Old 08-03-2002, 09:47 PM
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If I am 5'6'' and 175 pounds would the R6 "fit" me?
Oh, sweetie... Hon, DEFINATELY go smaller than an R6!!! I'm 5'9" and I don't feel comfortable on an R6 in weight to height ratio, etc... not to mention that this bike could eat me alive!!! PLEASE seriously consider a used bike. It is FAR more economical on your wallet in terms of purchase price AND insurance. If you are absolutely set on a sportbike as a starter, give a used Suzuki Katana 600 a look. But I would not even recommend that. Find a used Kawasaki Ninja 500. There are usually many for sale because they are good beginner bikes that people use for a few years and outgrow. Check your local newspaper classifieds, check in the Auto/motorcycle trader, check CycleTrader.com and anywhere else where you see used bikes for sale. And don't squid it... your life isn't worth the pain... GET THE GEAR!!!
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Where is the lowest price I would be able to find an R6 for?

I do know the dangers of buying this bike, but I also know what I need
to do, I will be taking the MSF Course in the following weeks and will
be purchasing a Shoei Helmet along with proper clothing.


PS - My balls aren't as big as my brains.
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Where is the lowest price I would be able to find an R6 for?

I do know the dangers of buying this bike, but I also know what I need
to do, I will be taking the MSF Course in the following weeks and will
be purchasing a Shoei Helmet along with proper clothing.


PS - My balls aren't as big as my brains.
You taking the MSF course leads me to believe that you have never driven a motorcycle before. You may know the dangers of riding a sportsbike, but you have absolutely no clue the power it has, or how to react to a situation that only a motorcycle can provide.

A sportsbike is the equivalent of a F1 car. Most superbikes that you see on speedvision are almost identical to the stock form, because they are so tweaked and so powerful that it is damn hard to get anything else out of the engines. So its great that you think you may be ready for a R6, but you have no idea how to ride a motorcycle, let alone a professional racing bike. Just because you may want to beat all the cars in drag races around in you area doesn't make you ready for a sportsbike. Infact with the kind of mindset you have set on a sportsbike, you obviously do no respect the nature of the motorcycle.

I will not help you find a sportsbike as your first bike. I am one of the most generous people out there, especially teaching other people how to ride motorcycles, however I will not even spend time looking for a bike for you. You obviously just do not get what we are saying.
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I do understand the outstanding power that an R6 has, I have ridden a motorcycle before but that was a harley and I know thats nothing
compared to the R6 but what I do understand is that the R6 is more like an F1 than a normal exotic car.


What I would like to know is your opinion of the R6 and whether or not it is a reliable good bike.
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It is a hell of a bike, very reliable. If you won't change your mind, try to find a dropped R6, you can get them starting at like 3500 with just plastic dmg.

But if this is your first bike, I still won't suggest you get it.
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Well, best of luck to ya man... Tell us if they get your hide off the road with a mop or a hose...

All "unkind" kidding aside, I am still VERY strongly opposed to this as your first sportbike. But hell, it's your life. Many dropped R6s are out there since most people who buy them buy for looks and can't ride, so it shouldn't be a problem for you to piece one together. But I'm afraid I'm taking sides with R1 here... actually finding it is up to you.
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I would recommend that you do not start with a R-6 as well, although all this stuff you guys are saying about how he WILL drop his bike is bull. I have been riding for 2 years now, my first bike was a 01 katana 600(great bike to learn on) and now I am driving a 99 TL1000R and I have yet to dump either and sure as hell don't plan on it. There are ways to ride safe even if your bike is overpowered for you.
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I have yet to dump either and sure as hell don't plan on it. There are ways to ride safe even if your bike is overpowered for you.
No offense sweetie, but I know 2 guys from this year alone who said "I'll be the guy to never drop my bike" and less than a week later ended up lowsiding (both of them did). I have dropped my dad's bike learning. A few people dropped the MSF bikes.

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I would recommend that you do not start with a R-6 as well, although all this stuff you guys are saying about how he WILL drop his bike is bull. I have been riding for 2 years now, my first bike was a 01 katana 600(great bike to learn on) and now I am driving a 99 TL1000R and I have yet to dump either and sure as hell don't plan on it. There are ways to ride safe even if your bike is overpowered for you.
yea, basically the same principle as crashing, there are those who have crashed, and those who are going to crash.
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There are ways to ride safe even if your bike is overpowered for you.
For sure, you ride smart. But if the first sportbike you ever buy/ride is an R-6, you've just thrown that possibility out the window! I wish the guy good luck, though...
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