You think changing plugs are bad, try the fuel pump....

[mike2004tct]

Carter fuel pumps are CRAP.

Bought a Carter pump assembly at my local Napa in March of 2005. The knuckle head at Napa sold me the wrong unit (One for an S10, not a Blazer- different size tank, gauge didn't work right). Had to remove that on 3-11-2005 and put in the correct one to the tune of $318.00 not counting tax.

Yesterday, Mr. Carter decided he had enough 18 miles from home, and gave up the ghost.
Of couse, "Your WAY over your warranty period" says Mr.Napa-parts-counter_dude. Yeah, by 3 stinkin months (and only 8,000 miles I'll add)

Out to the garage this afternoon to install an A.C.Delco part and hope that it lasts longer than Mr. Carter (but you never know, what with the shape Adelphi is in these days)

[BlazerBoyLT98]

Guess I will avoid Carter as I replace my fuel pump in the next few weeks. Good luck with the new one

[wolfox]

If you'll check a post I made about my experience replacing my fuel pump - I passed over the Carter and reached right for the 2x as expensive Bosch pump. Bosch wrote the book on Fuel Injection, and have super good products. I replaced the whiny pump in the tank with a nifty turbine pump. At idle, outside of the truck, one hears only the faintest of swishy-wizzzzz as it runs. Sounds like a little like a turbo. In fact the closest comparison I can come to is it sounds like a modern Caravan fuel pump when it's operating. Anyway, all said and done (And the gasket kit that came with it along with the upgraded harness) was all top notch components and fit from the get go. As soon as the key is turned, she is pumped up to 65 PSI and ready to launch. Good luck, and sometimes it's worth it to blow the extra dough on the good stuff. I wouldn't touch Carter nor Delphi/AC-Delco parts for fuel injection pumps. Just wouldn't.

[BlazerLT]

Carter pumps are complete crap.

EVERY person I have read that have used them have to replace them almost every two years.

They drop in an AC Delco unit and poof, you never hear a word from them.

[mike2004tct]

Originally Posted by wolfox

If you'll check a post I made about my experience replacing my fuel pump - I passed over the Carter and reached right for the 2x as expensive Bosch pump. .

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll remember that for the third (actually 4th) pump when I need to replace my new one. (BTW, where did you get it?)

I had to replace my original pump at 8.5 yrs old because I hosed up the housing, not because the pump quit.
I ended up getting a Delphi unit, and I'll explain why as short as possible.
I went back to Napa hoping to get some relief for the CRAP Carter pump that died after 8k miles/15 months. The Napa guy sold me the Delphi unit at cost ($304- the list was $716, actual discount to Joe Blow was $380.00) which I know cost over $450.00 last year at GMpartsdirect.
Last year, Autozone was selling A.C.Delco units for like $380.00, but not anymore. (Just Mastercraft - I won't buy that stuff)

OK, enough of that.
It took me 3.5 hrs to remove and replace Mr. Carter -May he RIP-, and the truck fired right up. Drove to work tonight, 25 miles round trip, no problems.
I'm happy until this unit fails (better be more than 2 years)

[mike2004tct]

Originally Posted by BlazerLT

Carter pumps are complete crap.



They drop in an AC Delco unit and poof, you never hear a word from them.

I hope so....

[muddog321]

Look on rockauto for the Gm # and the Delco # and the local stores can call their Delco supplier for a price and it usually beats all others with no shipping and you have a return place even! Been doing that for most parts - fuel pumps, sec air injection, radiators, and anything that you have a Delco # for.

[BlazerLT]

Originally Posted by mike2004tct

I hope so....

You know so......

[BlazinMlew]

I got the Delco pump from the dealer and although I paid probably to much it came with lifetme warr. on parts AND labor so I will never worry again. Which with as much as I hear bad about the fuel pumps from almost everyone I say money well spent.

Good luck with the new pump!

[mike2004tct]

Originally Posted by muddog321

Look on rockauto for the Gm # and the Delco # and the local stores can call their Delco supplier for a price and it usually beats all others with no shipping and you have a return place even! Been doing that for most parts - fuel pumps, sec air injection, radiators, and anything that you have a Delco # for.

rockauto only carries the Carter Crap assembly @ $324.79.
They only list 2 different units, 2 door or 4 door.
(2door '97 Blazer - pump is different than 4 door models)

I tried to cross-ref the Delphi number I have (FG0072-11B1), they don't
have a number for it.

[wolfox]

The numbers are listed in my post too, but the '95 is a different animal than your '97. A complete fuel sender assembly has to be sent to you, so you won't find the fuel pump alone for just a hair under $100. I found mine at Autozone for $97 after taxes, but it's a drop in unit that is mounted to a metal frame bracket that suspends it, and the level sender assembly in the tank. I *think* '96 and on have an all plastic, integral fuel sender and pump assembly, hence the $300+ pricetag. But for farts and giggles, here is the info as it pertains to my case:

Bosch's part number for the '95, 4-door 4x4 is 69225. You'll get all of the rings, retainer clips, bands and tube in the box. Also in the box is an upgraded power harness. The fuel filter is part number FF504. The sock is part number FS22. The Bosch fuel pump kit cost me $92.99 over the counter, no questions asked.

[mike2004tct]

Originally Posted by wolfox

.......... but the '95 is a different animal than your '97. A complete fuel sender assembly has to be sent to you,..........

Unfortunately (for me, anyway) AZ only carries Master fuel pump assemblies for '97s. As I stated earlier, last year they carried the Delco/Delphi part, but not any more. Their listing for Bosch is N/A, so even if I wanted to, I couldn't get just the pump and put it in the plastic housing. But I'm not complaining, I got the Delphi part for a VERY reasonable price, but when considered with the Crapper pump - I mean Carter, I've spent over $600.00 and 10 hours of work in a 15 month period on fuel pumps. (Well, maybe I'm complaining a little bit)

[wolfox]

Nah, it takes getting burned only once...maybe twice on OEM aftermarket parts to have to reaching for the "good stuff". I had an import that would chew and throw off an accessory belt every 3-4K miles. I was using Goodyear Gatorbacks. Finally, I just went and spent the $9 extra bucks for a Gates belt - and it lasted until that car self-destructed from other mechanical reasons on the highway. Want to total a small Japanese import quickly? Have a hood latch wear through and flip up in your face at 75+ MPH on the freeway when being passed by a Semi-Trailer. Blew out the windshield, crumpled the roof, even knocked the rearview mirror that was roof mounted into my face - the hood was wrapped around the remaining body shell like taffy - but I digress...

Go for the parts that were original equipment, or the parts that are upgrades - a good deal may not be much of one a few months down the road. :P This applies doubly for electronic parts, fuel management and suspension/tires in my book... there ya go! 10 Pounds of advice in a 5 pound baggie.

[wafrederick]

Napa's fuel pumps are made by Airtex.Carter Fuel pumps are not junk and I have been having very good luck with them.Carter has the best warrenty claims and are very good.Airtex fuel pumps are junk,their warranty is worthless and most warranty claims are denied

[BlazerLT]

Originally Posted by wafrederick

Napa's fuel pumps are made by Airtex.Carter Fuel pumps are not junk and I have been having very good luck with them.Carter has the best warrenty claims and are very good.Airtex fuel pumps are junk,their warranty is worthless and most warranty claims are denied

Every Carter pump I have heard that was installed on a 4.3L has failed within two years.

They go back to an AC Delco unit and they never have a problem again.

They better have a good warranty claim policy because you will be needing it.