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my '91 4.3L silverado sometimes will not start....only have 2 spray starting fluid in throttle body to get it started....then it cranks and runs fine...no matter how far you drive it....this does not happen every time either...but it does happen enough to be pretty aggravating!!....i just had the fuel pump,strainer,filter,fuel pump relay replaced(i suggested to mechanic it was fuel pump....so he replaced it...didn't help)...i then replaced the fuel filter....it seems MAYBE a little better now...but still has done it 2x in 3 or 4 days..anyone have any ideas on this?

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my '91 4.3L silverado sometimes will not start....only have 2 spray starting fluid in throttle body to get it started....then it cranks and runs fine...no matter how far you drive it....this does not happen every time either...but it does happen enough to be pretty aggravating!!....i just had the fuel pump,strainer,filter,fuel pump relay replaced(i suggested to mechanic it was fuel pump....so he replaced it...didn't help)...i then replaced the fuel filter....it seems MAYBE a little better now...but still has done it 2x in 3 or 4 days..anyone have any ideas on this?

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Check fuel pressure for being up to specs to start with when it no start.
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your battery might need to be replaced
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Check fuel pressure for being up to specs to start with when it no start.
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this is my first time on here...is the right way to replay to posts?....anyway...thanks guy...def sounds like it may be low fuel pressure...i'm just gonna have to take it to the shop...and make sure they test the fuel pressure (the guy i had working on it told me call him when it messes up again...that that was the only way he could figure it out)...thanks again
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this is my first time on here...is the right way to replay to posts?....anyway...thanks guy...def sounds like it may be low fuel pressure...i'm just gonna have to take it to the shop...and make sure they test the fuel pressure (the guy i had working on it told me call him when it messes up again...that that was the only way he could figure it out)...thanks again
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10-4 wesson123970 you are doing it the right way. good.
Welcome to the forum on AF.
But Your post no does say no 2 post for some reason.
And it does help to catch it when it does it.
And for sure check fuel pressure and the the fuel pump for full pressure and leak down and alll of the good stuff.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
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Re: silverado won't start....sometimes

when it fails to start, does it, turn over fine, sputter and try, is the check eng light on , can you hear the fuel pump energize when you turn the key to on?
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when it fails to start, does it, turn over fine, sputter and try, is the check eng light on , can you hear the fuel pump energize when you turn the key to on?
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it turns over fine...plenty of battery power and starter is fine...i can hear the fuel-pump too....never sputters...if it does, it cranks....never can tell when it's gonna do it...at first i thought it was when parked on a hill...but that's not it..will do parked in any position...again..once it cranks, it runs like a new truck

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Re: silverado won't start....sometimes

Yep my 89 camaro is doing the same thing, Runs great but sometimes the fuel injectors dont fire at start up, but if you give it some str fluid fires rt up. Is the truck throttle body or multiport injection? regardless try to see if its fireing the injectors when it dont start of if it is then the computer is not mixing the fuel rt, ex bad temp sending unit, bad air temp sending unit , bad computer.If you find out let me know Ive been trowing all kkind of parts at mine.
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Re: silverado won't start....sometimes

My 99 was doing the same thing, however it did start, albeit hard. Then ran just fine after it started.

Check the fuel pressure regulator located on the fuel rack. Pull the vacuum line off of the regulator and sniff it for the smell of gasoline. If you smell gas in the vacuum line, your regulator is bad. Replace it. Took me 10-15 minutes to remove the old one and replace it with new.

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My 99 was doing the same thing, however it did start, albeit hard. Then ran just fine after it started.

Check the fuel pressure regulator located on the fuel rack. Pull the vacuum line off of the regulator and sniff it for the smell of gasoline. If you smell gas in the vacuum line, your regulator is bad. Replace it. Took me 10-15 minutes to remove the old one and replace it with new.

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I am afraid a 99 with external regulator is a little bit diferent than the 91.
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Yeah, I'm not familiar with the 91 fuel system. Sorry if my reply put you off track. I could still be off base here but the problem does sound like maybe excess fuel is flowing unregulated and may be flooding the cylinders. Yes???



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Yeah, I'm not familiar with the 91 fuel system. Sorry if my reply put you off track. I could still be off base here but the problem does sound like maybe excess fuel is flowing unregulated and may be flooding the cylinders. Yes???



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Different years and different engine codes will be different fuel systems.
If it takes starting fluid or carb cleaner to start it it is more no fuel or low fuel pressure.
But to much fuel will give a hard start to.
That is why you need afuel pressure gauge to see what is going on.
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guys....a while back my distributor module went bad on my truck(which has to do w/ fuel timing)..and it would run really rough....before i took to shop to find out what it was...i tried several different kinds of throttle body sprays to clean it....all were supposed to be safe for fuel injection(also used fuel injector cleaner in gas)....but i am really suspecting that it damaged the fuel pressure regulator as one of you guys mentioned!!!(my manual for truck also says don't soak regulator in any kind of cleaner!!!)...i just saw your reply..i ordered the pressure regulator yesterday and will be putting it on tomorrow!!!...yeah...i took a chance on that being what it is, but i feel like it has to be the problem...it all makes sense now...btw..the regulator is pretty easy to replace on the 91 too..it's right on top of throttle-body(i'm replacing the whole piece---spring and diaphram already inside!)..thanks to all of you for your help...i'll let you know how it turns out!
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guys....a while back my distributor module went bad on my truck(which has to do w/ fuel timing)..and it would run really rough....before i took to shop to find out what it was...i tried several different kinds of throttle body sprays to clean it....all were supposed to be safe for fuel injection(also used fuel injector cleaner in gas)....but i am really suspecting that it damaged the fuel pressure regulator as one of you guys mentioned!!!(my manual for truck also says don't soak regulator in any kind of cleaner!!!)...i just saw your reply..i ordered the pressure regulator yesterday and will be putting it on tomorrow!!!...yeah...i took a chance on that being what it is, but i feel like it has to be the problem...it all makes sense now...btw..the regulator is pretty easy to replace on the 91 too..it's right on top of throttle-body(i'm replacing the whole piece---spring and diaphram already inside!)..thanks to all of you for your help...i'll let you know how it turns out!
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Re: silverado won't start....sometimes

Have you had your hose checked? There could be a collapsed line, either an input, or a return. A collapsed line will cause intermittent, eventual failure to deliver gas. You can disconect both from the TBi, blow some air through them, just make sue and disconnect them on the other side before doing so. Have you check to make sure your injectors are not clogged? Have someone start it while you watch it spray. There should be a very solid stream. Keep us posted, and good luck
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