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[lmno]

I just have a question that I was thinking about to ask. Couldn't someone going from a 250 ninja to a 600cc sports bike make the mistakes as a beginner learning to ride a 600cc sports bike?

[DealsGap]

I'm not sure I quite understand what you're asking, but of course everyone can and will make mistakes.

[lmno]

Well everyone says its not good to start off with a 600cc sports bike because of its power. If someone came off a 250 ninja to a 600cc sports bike there is a great power difference. Wouldn't that be almost the same as a beginner learning to ride a 600cc sports bike. In both cases they are both learning to adapt to the power difference and they can both equally make the same mistakes even though one has experience riding a less powerful bike. You get what Im saying?

[Kurtdg19]

Yea I understand what your saying, but you always have to remember how important any seat time is on a bike. Going from a 250 to a 600cc sport bike would be a much more reasonable choice then starting out on a sports bike. An experienced rider will always have an edge in understanding how to deal with and make quick decisions compared to a new rider.

What would you say if I were to ask whether it would be smarter to just go out and buy a brand new Dodge Viper as my first car compared to.......saying that I have been driving an S2000 and now I am thinking about buying a Viper?

[lmno]

I understand what your saying. It's not like Im gonna go out and get a sports bike, I just wanted to understand why not to. In 2 weeks I take the motorcyle safety course. Im just trying to gather as much info I need and not make a stupid decission on getting a starter bike. I also don't understand why a YZF would make a good starter bike. I believe I read that on this forum. I also just realized that there isn't much difference in a older say 90-98 sports bike than a newer model one. I mean the older ones still shouldn't be used as a beginner bike. Another thing is the suzuki sv, wouldn't they be alittle too much to handle for a first time rider. My choice would have to be a ninja 500.

[speediva]

Everyone has their own individual feelings about what they think people should start on. Go with your comfort level and hope you made a wise decision.

[Vtec95Civic]

When it says YZF in the sticky, it's not the R6, it's the 600r Thundercat. Which is much more tame and learning friendly than it's racing counterpart. I was thinking of buying one, but I think I'd be better of w/ a 500 (the GS500F).

[jeffcoslacker]

Just buy an old Honda 750 Nighthawk.

Fun, reliable, cheap, indestructable.

Learn on it, then get what you want.

[aussieidiot]

Originally Posted by lmno

I also just realized that there isn't much difference in a older say 90-98 sports bike than a newer model one.

every year the manufacturers are trying for the best in their respective category. there's been massive changes since 1998. let alone 1990

1998 was the launch year for the R1 i believe . have a look at the original to a 2005 model

even since 2003. the new gsxr750 produces more power and is lighter than my '03 954

what the difference in starting capacities comes down to is:
the ability to go fast and your reaction times to compensate.

on a 250, the thing is (all this is relative, slow compared to larger bike is still relatively fast compared to average cars) slow to accelerate. it lacks power to lift the front or spin the rear unless you really try hard.

on a 600 (depending on the model) is faster to accelerate and has the ability to lift the front and spin the rear. But will still require a bit of effort. sure it may do it unexpected but compared to a 1000

on a 1000, it can wheelie in 2nd gear if your not sitting right and twist too hard. come out of a corner and twist before you've started to come up and you'll powerslide yourself to a possible highside.


so this is where seat time comes into it. you need to be aware every second that your on a bike, whats it going to do and read the feedback from the tyres, suspension and bars to react to any situation.

now all that is possible in a controlled situation. put yourself out on the road amongst soccer mums in SUV's dealing with screaming kids and a moble phone rather than the road, taxis who are fatigued from working long shifts, drunks who "just live down the road officer". all these people will have the same excuse as they scrape your carcass of the tarmac. "i didn't see him"

as you learn you have so much to take in, why make it hard on a bike which is difficult to control. walk before you run

[lmno]

Coo Coo. I signed up for the basic riders course.