Finally got my car....2000 Blue Civic Si...now what?

[Evilwayz249]

alright i finally got my car...so what now...what should i do to it first. also ive heard that GReddy and Comptech is the best for a civic si what do you guys think?

[kicker1_solo]

Go with the first 3 standard things, i/h/e. Intake, header, exhaust, and greddy will be nice for your civic.

oh yeah, and wheels

[Si2000 Vtec]

Personally, I would stay away from Greddy parts. They use brand-identity to sell their parts, not quality. People buy them for the name.

Now down to business: Kicker1_Solo has it right; start with the basics. Here is what I would purchase if I were in your situation.

AEM Cold-Air Intake: $180
Comptech 4-2-1 Stainless Header: $ ??
Thermal R&D Cat-Back Exhaust: $450

This setup here will raise your wheel horsepower nearly 15-ponies, which is GREAT power for bolt-on performance.

You'll hear many variations of what people like and what they have, but I am TELLING YOU this is one of the best setups you can buy. Good luck with your new Si!

[GSteg]

the thing that sucks about basic i/h/e upgrades is that one you put them on, you'll want more power, and unfortunately going N/A is expensive and harder. later on, you'll want a turbo or something. if you do take that route later on, you'd waste over $500 on bolt on parts that wouldn't be needed anymore, and turbo cost $3000 dependin on the brand and custom turbos can get around $1000 (almost same price as i/h/e, but you gain more). if you don't want to go for turbo and such, then i/h/e should do it.

good luck on whatever you do!

[CivicSiRacer]

Personally I would go with Comptech. I had Greddy stuff and it rusted out and broke within a year. My Power Extreme resonator something got loose in it and started rattling, and the canister started rusting.

[CivicSiRacer]

Personally I would go with Comptech. I had Greddy stuff and it rusted out and broke within a year. My Power Extreme resonator something got loose in it and started rattling, and the canister started rusting.

[RICE GOD]

dont waste ur time and money with I/H/E

[Si2000 Vtec]

Not everyone wants a rocket-powered car. Start with I/H/E, if you want more power, theres plenty of inexpensive parts you can purchase to further your power.

And if your just a crazy nutcase that wants to get even more power, then you can decide to sell your I/H/E at only about 25% money loss and purchase a turbocharger system. I say turbo because if I say supercharger, you'll all think "Alright, Jackson Racing!!" when in fact JRSC's can lick my balls because they are garbage.

[GSteg]

Originally posted by Si2000 Vtec
I say turbo because if I say supercharger, you'll all think "Alright, Jackson Racing!!" when in fact JRSC's can lick my balls because they are garbage.

how are they garbage? they increase power from idle to redline without a problem. they are good for city driving and make good power once you upgrade the boost.

[Si2000 Vtec]

Thank you for asking me why, I was hoping someone would.

1) They offer a 100k mile warranty. In many cases, I've heard they don't honor the warrenty. Jackson Racing has very little to do with these superchargers. They are manufactured by a company that produces performance parts for Mazda Miatas.

2) They do increase power from idle to redline. How much power? Hardly anything. You can easily get more power from an all-motor setup for less money than you would from these JRSC's.

3) The only thing they are good for is bolt-on performance. If you try and run the 8-psi pulley, I've personally seen 2 people blow their motors at the track. These systems are harly upgradable, and their fade comes in early. You can't run over 11-psi with these systems, they simply aren't efficient enough to produce this power.

4) The price is gay. Your getting raped if you purchase one at full price. You can slap I/H/E and a good set of cams, pistons, rods, etc. for the same price and have way more power than these JRSC's. And you'll be way more reliable.

So yeah, FUCK JRSC's.

[GSteg]

they are cheaper than N/A, but their limitation aren't that low. personally..i have seen an integra Type R with 13psi and it ran 11's. they aren't bad units.. u just gotta know how to use them.

the only limitation i see on a supercharger is the pulley. other than that..it provides great power. the JRSC civic si with 6lbs of boost gained 40whp. i don't think that would be "hardly any gain"

as for the manufactor, you are correct. jackson racing doesn't make superchargers, they sell them. those units are supplied by eaton, the same suppliers that supplies superchargers for jaguars, aston martins, etc, and not just for mazda.

[Si2000 Vtec]

40whp is actually very low for forced induction. Look at the comparison, the Vortech Supercharger... bolt-on 97whp for nearly the same price. Which kit would you buy? Also, the Vortech kit can provide much more boost than the JRSC. 13PSI on an ITR from a JRSC? Hard to believe. What bottom-end setup was he using? Even at that, its proven that the JRSC can't boost much past 11psi because it's an extremely inefficient design.

I don't mind arguing at all, so please keep sending my curveballs if you want... im just here to try and teach people what i've learned. Anyway, keep it coming.

[GSteg]

Originally posted by Si2000 Vtec
40whp is actually very low for forced induction. Look at the comparison, the Vortech Supercharger... bolt-on 97whp for nearly the same price. Which kit would you buy? Also, the Vortech kit can provide much more boost than the JRSC. 13PSI on an ITR from a JRSC? Hard to believe. What bottom-end setup was he using? Even at that, its proven that the JRSC can't boost much past 11psi because it's an extremely inefficient design.

I don't mind arguing at all, so please keep sending my curveballs if you want... im just here to try and teach people what i've learned. Anyway, keep it coming.

actually..40whp on 6psi is good for a twin root charger. the vortech on the other hand must have boosted 8psi. there is no way you can get 94whp out of 6psi, unless you have some other major upgrades. the JR civic Si had only i/h/e.

which kit would i choose? i would take the JRSC over the vortech anytime. the JRSC provides better power curves thoughout the revband than instead of the vortech's top-end. centrifugal superchargers are efficient, but also has lags just like a turbo, making it less efficient than a twin root supercharger at low end. most likely when you see dyno charts for vortech, you'll see that most of its gains are at top end.

apparently, power curve is more important than peak power. with the high top end like that, the car is bound to get little traction once it reaches near its redline.

look at how fast the vortech civic and the vortech GSR runs. the vortech GSR only runs a pathetic 14.9. they have BARELY and increase in low and midrange. in drag racing, its very important that you have good midrange too, because once you're at redline and you shift, guess where would you land? yup. midrange. even a turbo setup would cost less and be better than a vortech setup. at least it gives you gains in the midrange.

now only if i can give you a link to a discussion on the vortech. you'll see that most of them agree that the vortech GSR did indeed run a lousy time because of the way the supercharger increases the power.