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Old 05-20-2006, 08:05 AM
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Check Engine Light

I have a 1997 Taurus with the V-6. The check engine soon light comes on now and then. I had Ford look at it and they said the catalytic convetor is bad but they charged so much to do these things that that place wont do them anymore. They also said that the Taurus is really bad for having this issue. The light still goes on every few weeks for a couple of days but then off for days or weeks. The car still runs and sounds great.

My question is, if I leave it go can I really hurt the engine? It doens't seem to be blocking any exhaust just a sensor saying it isn't working properly. If I started to hear or feel anything I would not wait to fix it. But if it isn't hurting anything why spend the money that I don't need to spend?

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Old 05-20-2006, 09:56 AM
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Re: Check Engine Light

Most catalytic converters are replaced because the vehicle won't pass the emission test. If you don't have emission testing you can let it go.
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Old 05-20-2006, 03:37 PM
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Re: Check Engine Light

Thanks, thats what I thought.
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Old 05-20-2006, 08:14 PM
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Re: Check Engine Light

My mechanic tells me, that if the car is running OK, leave it alone.
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Old 05-20-2006, 10:35 PM
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Re: Check Engine Light

Since you mention that the Check Engine Light (CEL) still comes on from time to time, it should have codes stored. Stop by AutoZone or a similar chain parts store and have the codes read. Most will do it for free. Get the exact codes that are stored and post them on this thread.

The dealer may have just given you a "worst case" guess as to what the problem might be. The code(s) may indicate something not so serious (like a bad/slow oxygen sensor).

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Old 05-21-2006, 11:14 AM
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Re: Check Engine Light

Thanks for all the input. I will get the codes read and post them this week.
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Old 05-24-2006, 12:25 PM
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Re: Check Engine Light

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My question is, if I leave it go can I really hurt the engine? It doens't seem to be blocking any exhaust just a sensor saying it isn't working properly. If I started to hear or feel anything I would not wait to fix it. But if it isn't hurting anything why spend the money that I don't need to spend?

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I bought a 96 Taurus and had the same issue, sometimes light comes on, sometimes it's off. (see the topic on the first page). I asked Ford Service the same question.They told me that it does not hurt the engine and I can still use the car as long as it does not completely fails. They said it could last for 3 months or even for 5-6 years, no way to tell how long.

And they said when it completely fails, the car probably can't go faster than 35-40 miles and then I'd have to replace it for sure.
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Old 05-24-2006, 01:17 PM
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Re: Check Engine Light

"And they said when it completely fails, the car probably can't go faster than 35-40 miles and then I'd have to replace it for sure."

Be careful because what's happening is the exhaust is stopping up and it wouldn't suprise me if it burnt vavles. The minute I noticed a slow down or other indication I'd bite the bullet and have it fixed.
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Old 05-24-2006, 08:51 PM
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Re: Check Engine Light

Thanks, thats what I'm thinking. When I have the time I am still going to get the codes read just to be sure.
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Old 05-24-2006, 11:03 PM
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Re: Check Engine Light

I was under the impression that OBD-II wasn't suppose to allow a car to run at a complete cat failure.
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:54 PM
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Re: Check Engine Light

An OBD-II car will have a flashing CEL if it detects a critical emissions fault. It often times will go into a "limp-in" mode, but won't completely fail due to the code by itself. Now if the exhaust catalyst gets completely plugged, then the car may fail to run, but not due to OBD-II.

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Old 05-25-2006, 11:32 PM
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Re: Check Engine Light

Just a quick question-does the car have and exhaust leak by chance? I saw several of these, some from other dealers looking for second opinions, that had codes for catalyst efficiency below threshold (which is almost always a cat). That body style Taurus was bad about cracking y-pipes at the juction where there's a cross-brace. This allows excess oxygen into the exhaust system before the catalytic convertor and can really mess up a HEGO reading. If that's your problem, you can cut the brace, weld the crack and replace the brace with a metal strap. I don't know if this is your problem or not, but I would definately check it before spending big bucks on a new cat. Good luck with it!
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Old 05-26-2006, 12:15 AM
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As a matter of fact it does have a very small leak at the brace. I had it repaired but it does sound like it is coming back. I never thought about removing the brace. I will and then strap it back up. thanks...
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Old 05-26-2006, 04:46 AM
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Found this link with prices and they not cheap but not a financial disaster. http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/ap...97&modelid=631
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Old 06-04-2006, 08:03 AM
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Thanks for the link for thet catz.
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