Which Supercar makes the most downforce?

[NewyorkKopter]

Hey, which supercar makes the most downforce? Also how much downforce does each supercar make? Like the Enzo, it makes a maximum of 1709 lbs @ 186 mph. How much do the Zonda, Koenigsegg, S7, and MC12 make?

[DinanM3_S2]

I'm thinking it goes like this-

S7
MC12
Enzo
Zonda C12/C12 S/F
Koenigsegg CC8S/CCR/CCX

I know that the Saleen S7 creates enough downforce at high speeds to match its own weight. I also know that the Enzo created about 50% more downforce then the Zonda (I might be wrong on the F). The MC12 is a racier version of the Enzo, so that ranks above it. Based on what I saw on the most recent Top Gear with the CCX and the older one with the CC8S, the Koenigsegg isn't very stable, leading me to say it has the least downforce.

[NewyorkKopter]

yea did you see the CC-X fly off the track? . I think they should run the S7 around thier track, It may not have the Enzo's super complicated forumla 1 inspired active aerodynamics, but it makes twice the downforce at only 160 mph! Does the MC12 make any where near 2,000 lbs of downforce?

[drunken monkey]

just so you know, massive downforce doesn't mean the faster or the better car.
it is only one factor in a list of many that all have to work together to get results.

[NewyorkKopter]

true, but it does mean more speed in corners upto a certain extent. Like in Top Gear's CC-X Review, they said that Koenigsegg's going to fit a rear wing on it and then run it again around the track.

[drunken monkey]

but that might have mainly been because the car wasn't designed first and foremost as a track car.
from what i gather, like they veyron, part of the main aim of the koenisgwhatmasthingamibob is to be the "fastest" which it took to be the one with highest max speed. if this really was the aim, then they would prefer to go without the wing to reduce overall drag.
even if a particular car has more downforce that another, it still isn't the only determining factor if the car is going to be good on a track or not as the overall handling/stability/grip/suspension geometry (under compression) will affect the need (or lack of) of more downforce.

best example of this is the old reliable Macca F1; no great big wing on the rear.
sure, the S7 might produce more downforce at 170mph but the real question is, does the enzo need it?
but yes, i think it'd be interesting to see what an S7 can do on the top gear track. i mean, it'd be a good case to show you if it, with more downforce, is going to be faster than the enzo or not.

[VAD0R]

Originally Posted by NewyorkKopter

yea did you see the CC-X fly off the track? . I think they should run the S7 around thier track, It may not have the Enzo's super complicated forumla 1 inspired active aerodynamics, but it makes twice the downforce at only 160 mph! Does the MC12 make any where near 2,000 lbs of downforce?

Top Gear testing an American car with great overal performance which they can't rip on for having horrid handling nor interior? The likeliness of that happening is like if Top Gear giving some praise to a Korean car aside from price.

[DinanM3_S2]

Originally Posted by VAD0R

Top Gear testing an American car with great overal performance which they can't rip on for having horrid handling nor interior? The likeliness of that happening is like if Top Gear giving some praise to a Korean car aside from price.

Jeremy Clarkson owns a Ford GT and loves it despite the fact that its the most unreliable car he's ever owned.

[NewyorkKopter]

yea, he said he loved the GT40 when he was a kid. He has a thing for oldies, but I don't blame him I mean just look at the McLaren F1 against the Veyron. The McLaren would be a milf while the Veyron would be a fat girl with big tits

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by NewyorkKopter

true, but it does mean more speed in corners upto a certain extent. Like in Top Gear's CC-X Review, they said that Koenigsegg's going to fit a rear wing on it and then run it again around the track.

Yes, And it did great! Click the pic ~

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by drunken monkey

But yes, i think it'd be interesting to see what an S7 can do on the top gear track. i mean, it'd be a good case to show you if it, with more downforce, is going to be faster than the enzo or not.

The HDF version of the S7. Even the TT has an HDF as well...

The S7 competition (650hp n/a 625tq 2550lbs) It was designed just for track use...


The S7 TT HDF Kitted ~

[NewyorkKopter]

oo, what does HDF stand for? About the Koenigsegg, wow what a diffrence, it beat the Zonda F by a full second, but then again it does have almost 150 more hp. I thought Konigsegg was going to mount a bigger wing, like the one on the HDF S7, but they mounted that tiny thing and still got the job done.

[2.2 Straight six]

Originally Posted by NewyorkKopter

oo, what does HDF stand for?

high downforce.

[NewyorkKopter]

o, lol thats almost like a "duh" thing. Thanks for that.