Consequences of breaking abalance shaft belt???

[dsm_dude12]

K so yetserday i was drivin my car to work. i took it to about 5500rpm's in second gear then let off as i hit the brakes and clutch for the next red light. as soon as i hit the clutch thoe.. the car started spuddering for about 2 seconds then died... so i got out and pushed it to the side of the road. poped the hood for a quick inspection and saw a piece of belt laying on the valve cover. since ive seen all the belts on my car except for the balance shaft one i assumed it was that. So i called the tow truck brought her home, started taring her apart. im at the point of getting the crank pulley off but it looks like the balance shaft belt is wrapped around the inside of the pulley... it just wont budge after u take the 4 bolts out. is there a puller i need or should i try prying it off? but anyways.. im just wondering... is there any damage to the engine since i broke the b/s belt or... is it just line the marks up and slap a new belt on and im good? thanks for any help guys!!

[crunchymilk55]

depends. Often, they will misalign the timing belt and you'll skip timing and ruin some valves. Take a look at your timing to make sure it's perfect before you just replace the BS belt and go. You might want to look into a BS belt removal kit too.

[gthompson97]

I would just go without the belt, alot less hassle in the long run. Just make sure you get the one with the oil grooves or you run a risk of killing the oil pump.

[kjewer1]

I would turn this into a full tbelt job, with or without BS removal. It's a pain in the ass to do BS removal with the motor inthe car. The front is easy, just leave the belt off, but you can't do that unless you rmove the rear shaft, which is where all the trouble is.

The other thing to consider is why did the front bs belt get thrown. More often than not, its because the front bshaft seized up. It spins somewhere around 15k rpm or higher even. If that's porked, you have no real choice but to do BS removal.

[crunchymilk55]

"porked"

lol, must be a northern thing?

[kjewer1]

LMAO, it just might be.

[dsm_dude12]

so basically.. what the plan is. drop the motor out? check to see if the timming is still correct on the timming belt. pull out the balance shafts with this removal kit. put the motor back in and i should be good??? I also am planning to change the timming belt while doing this because the old one looks pretty haggered.

Is it worth dropping the motor for to get the balance shafts out, or would it be easier to just struggle to get um out with the motor in the car? Also. where do i buy the b/s removal kit with the oil groov's from. any local parts store?

[blk_srt]

you dont need to pull the motor but it would be easier to work on

[dsm_dude12]

ok. well.. sounds like all the problems are solved! but one, how in the bluw hell do i get that fukin crank pulley off!!!!????

[blk_srt]

4 bolts and it should slide right off

[Talon69]

Just wondering how the hell you think its your BS belt sitting on the valve cover? You not running top timing cover for cam gears? Not to metion it would have to clear the water pump and all the other shit, unless some freak thing the timing belt brought it up. But not likely i do not think.

Look at what im talking about here.

[dsm_dude12]

no, i got the timming belt cover fully on. but u can see the belt popping out like 5 inchs and torn behind the crank pulley.so id assume it blewout by the crank somehow then rod up through the alternator belt. and just by real realy luck. the chunk on top the valve cover had a part number on it.

[ez1286]

The crank sproket comes off by that huge bolt in the center and you need a slide hammer to get it off after the bolt is out.

[dsm_dude12]

k so i got the pulley off, took the t-belt cover off.. and yah there was no belt on the b/s sprocket. the balance shaft gear turned freely so im pretty sure the shaft's not siezed. unfortunetly when i lined the 2 timming marks on the cam gears up. the crank looked about 45 degrees off from the t-mark on the t-belt cover... thats how i check to see if its in time right? im also pretty sure when i turned the motor by hand i heard a valve hit a piston.. im guessing its time to rebuild the head?? this is the first time with all this timming shit for me.. so correct me if im wrong on anything.

[blk_srt]

The timing mark on the balancer match up pretty good to the make on the cover. If a valve hit you could feel it when you turn it over like there would be resistance you could feel