New mustang

[Ford hater]

My friends and I cant stand fords but I am starting to like the mustang again but some one was tryin to tell me an 89 5.0 gt mustang would kill the new stang in a race . i know they have balls and all but I think this is wrong.

[shelbycobra]

Well you're fucking retarted because all stangs are awsome and none of them can be beaten by anything!

[Ford hater]

Humm I think you need to rethink this post i mmean most of the stangs really ran low on power but you need help.

[shelbycobra]

Your are INSAINE!

[KenzyJean]

you're fucking nuts.
and real wrong.

[01L2Cobra]

Originally Posted by shelbycobra

Well you're fucking retarted because all stangs are awsome and none of them can be beaten by anything!

Originally Posted by shelbycobra

Your are INSAINE!

They do run low on power. Shall we look at the numbers? I will start in 93 that will give Ford something to work with thanks to SVT but as you will see they are never on top of list when looking at power. 96 was close but Chevy won out thanks to their torque numbers.

1993
Firebird Trans Am/ Camaro Z28
275 HP 325 lb/ft

Mustag Cobra
235 HP 280 lb/ft

Mustang GT
205 HP 275 ft/lb


1996
Camaro SS
305 HP 325 lb/ft

Mustag Cobra
305 HP 300 lb/ft

Firebird Trans Am/ Camaro Z28
285 HP 325 lb/ft

Mustang GT
215 HP 285 ft/lb


2001
Firebird WS6
325 HP 350 lb/ft

Mustag Cobra
320 HP 317 lb/ft

Firebird Trans Am/ Camaro Z28
310 HP 340 lb/ft

Mustang GT
260 HP 302 ft/lb


2006
Charger SRT8
425 HP 420 lb/ft

GTO
400 HP 400 lb/ft

Charger RT
340 HP 390 lb/ft

Mustang GT
300 HP 320 ft/lb

[01L2Cobra]

Originally Posted by Ford hater

My friends and I cant stand fords but I am starting to like the mustang again but some one was tryin to tell me an 89 5.0 gt mustang would kill the new stang in a race . i know they have balls and all but I think this is wrong.

Yea they are wrong. The only way that a fox body would beat a S197 is if it was moded and the S197 was totally stock. The S197 handles a lot better but it is still uninspiring around a road course.

[TheStang00]

yeah as cobra said... the new mustang would definalty win, without question. stock vs stock. however many people do prefer fox bodies because they are lighter and the 5.0 is a very easy motor to mod, and its cheap to mod. not to mention it takes very well to mods. it is one of the best bang for buck out there, as far as straight line performance goes.

also another thing to consider. the mustangs have less power yes, but they also cost considerably less than the other cars mentioned. and the car that was left out, the 03/04 cobras were priced close to the other cars but had considerably more power.

just FYI, cobra, the 01 generation fbodies were drastically underrated on hp. they actually have about 350. they did this for marketing, so the corvette would have more, but in reality they are the same engine, or atleast pretty damn close.


just out of curiousity, why do you hate fords so much. i used to hate gm cars... but it comes to a point where you just start liking cars in general. so while ford is my favorite, i still like other competing companies.

[01L2Cobra]

Originally Posted by TheStang00

also another thing to consider. the mustangs have less power yes, but they also cost considerably less than the other cars mentioned. and the car that was left out, the 03/04 cobras were priced close to the other cars but had considerably more power.

I didn't list the 03/04 because their really wasn't any cars being built those two years to compare it with. Yea I could have listed the Vette as most 03/04 Cobra owners love to compare those cars against. But the Vette is so much more of a car that the two shouldn't be compared. I could have also listed the GTO but its first year in productions wasn't that spectacular and after that things changed. Plus do we really want to get in to the pissing match over the power band-aid the 03/04 has?

Originally Posted by TheStang00

just FYI, cobra, the 01 generation fbodies were drastically underrated on hp. they actually have about 350. they did this for marketing, so the corvette would have more, but in reality they are the same engine, or atleast pretty damn close.

Yep I know but I was just posting published data on them.

[Muscletang]

There is something I'd like to point out too on this. The '05 GT comes with a 3.55 rear while the fox body 5.0 came with a 2.73. If you've drove a 5.0 with lower gears, you can tell a BIG difference.

Even with that the new GT would still beat it but it wouldn't be as bad.

[TheStang00]

Originally Posted by Muscletang

There is something I'd like to point out too on this. The '05 GT comes with a 3.55 rear while the fox body 5.0 came with a 2.73. If you've drove a 5.0 with lower gears, you can tell a BIG difference.

Even with that the new GT would still beat it but it wouldn't be as bad.

yep thats a good point, the fox is quite a bit lighter. so it probably wouldnt be that bad.

[hunter9s]

As for the new stang vs the 5.0 stock vs stock the 4.6 will own the 5.0. First off the 4.6 has a 60HP advantage right off the bat. The 5.0 wouldn't even get a sniff of the 4.6.

As for mods and builds in general, the 5.0 can be built up alot cheaper than the 4.6. The 302 has been around forever and there are alot of parts around ..cheap! I know I have a 02 GT and the cost of mods are sort of nuts. They do respond really well though I will say that. Its like everything you buy for a 4.6 is $ 450.00 75 mm tb and plenium.. 450.00 Injectors, 400 and change. The down side to a 4.6 GT is they don't have forged internals so you are limited to around 400 HP with out smokin the cast crank etc.

Later guys
Steve

[neatofrito1618]

Originally Posted by hunter9s

As for the new stang vs the 5.0 stock vs stock the 4.6 will own the 5.0. First off the 4.6 has a 60HP advantage right off the bat. The 5.0 wouldn't even get a sniff of the 4.6.

As for mods and builds in general, the 5.0 can be built up alot cheaper than the 4.6. The 302 has been around forever and there are alot of parts around ..cheap! I know I have a 02 GT and the cost of mods are sort of nuts. They do respond really well though I will say that. Its like everything you buy for a 4.6 is $ 450.00 75 mm tb and plenium.. 450.00 Injectors, 400 and change. The down side to a 4.6 GT is they don't have forged internals so you are limited to around 400 HP with out smokin the cast crank etc.

Later guys
Steve

Its a 75 hp difference, but anyways a 05+ GT would own a 5.0 fox body.

[giddyup50]

Originally Posted by hunter9s

As for the new stang vs the 5.0 stock vs stock the 4.6 will own the 5.0. First off the 4.6 has a 60HP advantage right off the bat. The 5.0 wouldn't even get a sniff of the 4.6.

As for mods and builds in general, the 5.0 can be built up alot cheaper than the 4.6. The 302 has been around forever and there are alot of parts around ..cheap! I know I have a 02 GT and the cost of mods are sort of nuts. They do respond really well though I will say that. Its like everything you buy for a 4.6 is $ 450.00 75 mm tb and plenium.. 450.00 Injectors, 400 and change. The down side to a 4.6 GT is they don't have forged internals so you are limited to around 400 HP with out smokin the cast crank etc.

Later guys
Steve

Yes, stock vs. stock, 05 would win. 300hp vs. 225hp. However, lets look at the weight advantage of a 92 LX coupe. Mine weighed 2700 pounds with me in it and a 1/4 tank of gas. The 05 weighs what, 3500 pounds? Someone earlier said the 05 comes with 3.55's. So throw them into the 92. Then my $$$ is on the 5.0!! The 05 needs 300hp just to get that fat pig moving! I know 3.55 wouldn't be stock for the 5.0 anymore but just using them as an equalizer. I think you guys know what I'm saying.