Question about N/T and ICs...

[david-b]

I was thinking and I don't know why...

Is it possible for N/T cars to take a IC, like a FMIC, and use it as just an intake? Like block off the input pipe and just go straight from the output to the TB. Think about it... here's a HUGE open section for the cold air to flow in and go straight to the intake.

Now, I understand that the IC takes the warm air coming from the exhaust and then recools it and recirculates in back into the intake. I don't think there's any way to do that for the N/Ts though.

Any insights on this? I know this sounds like a noob question here, but I'm curious on the science of it.

[blk_srt]

intercoolers cool the charges air from the turbo nothing to do with the exhaust. Alos an intercooler wont suck in air unless you put a filter one the inlet. I've seen it done but I dont know if it helps at all

[SilvrEclipse]

I remember seeing an air filter that was made similar to a fmic. It mounted in the front of your car but it would suck in air. It seems like it might work pretty good but the rain might be a problem.

[clipsekid99]

Originally Posted by SilvrEclipse

I remember seeing an air filter that was made similar to a fmic. It mounted in the front of your car but it would suck in air. It seems like it might work pretty good but the rain might be a problem.

Ya, it's for civic's lol.

[Thor06]

Definately DO NOT get that FMIC style filter. Rain, puddles, wet roads all = bad.

To answer your question though, we had a discussion on this in the Cavy section once before I quit going there. To make a long story short, its not worth it. The IC cools the air after it flows through the turbo. The turbo heats up the intake air charge and the IC cools it back down to ambient air temp. Well, if you were to put an IC in the intake tract of a NT car, the air betweent he filter and the IC would already be at ambient temp, so the IC would be nothing but a restriction. Make sense?

[Killa]

Originally Posted by clipsekid99

Ya, it's for civic's lol.

LOL I saw a civic had it, and the owner say it

WORK

just like turbo LOL.

[david-b]

Summit Racing carries that one for Civics... lol.

But wouldnt having a big ass "filter" on the front the car low like in a FMIC allow more air to flow into the intake though? Even if it's not cooling it down like a IC is supposed to.

I get the air gets cooled. So, just have the IC and its getting air rammed into it and pushed/sucked into the intake then, right?

[Thor06]

I serious doubt that intake will actually get more air into the engine, but like I said you will suck up so much water with the filter right in the opening of your bumper.

I'm not exactly sure if you understand the filter/temperature/cooling/IC thing here, but an IC will do you more harm than good. The IC will go between the filter and the TB, but remember the purpose of the IC is to cool the air. Well, to get something cold, you need something colder to get it there right? Well, the air temp right after the filter will be virtually the same as the temp outside so the temp after the IC wont be any different than the temp right before it. Also, without the turbo to force the air through the IC, the natural aspiration of the engine will have to draw the air through the IC. The IC will not be easy to pull air through with just the power of the engine, thus making the engine work harder to get the same amount of the same temperature air. Simply put, putting an IC in a NT car wont be beneficial.

[clipsekid99]

Not to hijack the thread, but I just ordered that same ebay shifter and the polyurethane shifter bushings like you have david.

[Thor06]

Not to help him jack the thread, but where exactly do the shifter bushings go?

[ez1286]

Originally Posted by Thor06

Not to help him jack the thread, but where exactly do the shifter bushings go?

The shifter plate that bolt to the floor of the car.

[david-b]

That makes perfect sense... Just a little open discussion... Just what I wanted. Thanks.

Shifter bushings go on the shifter plate. Makes a nice difference. Then, shifter bearings (which I would also recommend) go on the linkage direclty on the tranny. Check in the videos section to see how tight the shifting is.

[blk_srt]

You can avoid sucking up water with the aem bypass filter thing. http://www.aempower.com/product_intake.asp?subCatID=3

[Thor06]

So the shifter bearings go on the shifter plate which is inside the car under the consol dealy by where the stick is? And the bushings are on top of the tranny where the shift cables connect to the tranny right? I should do those things as long as I have all the shit out of the way...

[david-b]

You've got it right.