ls tranny on b16a

[2poor2tune]

ok so i have the b16 now and i need a tranny so i looked around and found an ls integra tranny with 71,000 miles on it out of a 90 93 integra. so what i want toknow is will it work like any other b series tranny? what are the pros and cons of the ls? and caould i use the stock integra mounts for the b16 in the crx or what
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[CRXperiment]

The ls tranny is hydro, so you need to buy the hydro conversion kit. It has longer gears and isnt good if your going turbo. The b16 Y1 tranny has shorter gears and is cable, so it might suit you better, but thats up to you.

[2poor2tune]

yeah im sure i would like the b16 tranny better but cant afford it right now. and would you double check that whole "ls trannys are hydro" because i have seen some that were cable. it would be nice to be sure. and i always thought that longer gears would be better for the turbo setup because short ones cause turbo lag. and long ones have more spool time for the turbo. thanks

[CivicSpoon]

no, not all ls transmissions are hydro, the '94+ ones are; but the older ones are cable. If you want faster acceleration, go with the shorter tranny. If you still want some kind of decent fuel economy, then go with the longer geared tranny.

[FrodoGT]

Ok. I can tell you (because I have one) that the 93 integra tranny was hydro, so I would bet that all before are as well...also, the YS1 has some short freaking gears..the shortest of the cables Im told. The LS has very very long gears. Long gears are beneficial for a turbo set up not for spool time, but because you can stay in boost longer, before you have to shift gears..allowing you to get longer power boosts from your turbo, a shorter one would just have you spinning up the turbo and then blowing off any boost you may have made...

[SiZ]

Unless you're boosting 20+ PSI you're still going to be faster with a the shortest geared transmission you can get.

[2poor2tune]

cool thanks for the info. you learn somethin everyday around here.

[CivicSpoon]

Put up 2 boosted cars that are exactly the same except one has a long geared tranny and the other has a short geared tranny. The short geared tranny will smoke the long geared tranny in the ¼ mile, on the highway to a specified mph, or exiting a tight corner. The longer geared tranny will give you a higher mph, that's it. And have fun praying, while you're trying to redline your boosted engine (reach the highest mph), that something doesn't give from all the heat you're producing. You don't gain hp by getting a longer geared tranny, but you get to your max power slower. Just more BS info that spreads through the world wide web.

[FrodoGT]

Hey, I didnt say that you WANT the LS, there are other shorter geared ones that arent too short, I would never touch an LS, boosted or not......but a very short trans is not all too wise either...and sure, with our light cars, why not go for the shorty?...

[bambam89lx]

Originally Posted by FrodoGT

Ok. I can tell you (because I have one) that the 93 integra tranny was hydro, so I would bet that all before are as well...also, the YS1 has some short freaking gears..the shortest of the cables Im told. The LS has very very long gears. Long gears are beneficial for a turbo set up not for spool time, but because you can stay in boost longer, before you have to shift gears..allowing you to get longer power boosts from your turbo, a shorter one would just have you spinning up the turbo and then blowing off any boost you may have made...

what? I'm hoping you meant to say the OPPOSITE! 93 integra tranny's are NOT hydro. ALL 90-93 integra tranny's are cable. FACT.

[superbluecivicsi]

s1, j1, ys1, and y1 integra trannys are all cable trannys.

so that makes the 90-93 teg trannies cable.

[2poor2tune]

cool. thanks for the help. and isnt the ys1 the best out of them all

[FrodoGT]

WHOA..yeah thats exactly what I meant! Cable cable cable..!

[bambam89lx]

Originally Posted by 2poor2tune

cool. thanks for the help. and isnt the ys1 the best out of them all

Best would be different for everyone. You have to ask yourself, do you want a higher top speed, or do you want faster acceleration. If you want a high top speed, get the 90-93 LS's A1 or USDM S1. If you want top acceleration, get the J1 or the Y1. If you want some happy medium in between, get the YS1. Not sure where the JDM S1 fits in all of that off the top of my head though. I know the Y1 has the shortest gears of ANY bseries tranny ever made, but it only has a 4.2 final. The J1 has slightly longer gears, but has a 4.4 final.

[turtlecrxsi]

Are the YS1 trannies rare? I will be swapping eventually (like everyone else) but it will be awhile and I'm just going B18 most likely, but I don't want to go from a d16 to a slower b18 as far as acceleration goes...