Is this a good suspension setup?

[94uhkord]

I have a 94 Accord and am wondering what kind of suspension to put on it. I have a family so I don't want to lower it much, maybe at the most 2". I am on the tightest budget imagined so I want to get the best I can for the least amount. I was thinking Neuspeed sports which will lower 1.5" in the rear, 1.75" up front. The shocks I was thinking about going with mostly because of their cost are the KYB GR-2's. Everyone (most people) says the AGX are nice so I figured if I went with thier lower line (non adjustable) shocks I'd be ok. If it matters, i'm gonna be sitting on stock 95 EX rims painted graphite w/50 series tires.

[Dezoris]

The GR-2 are a OEM replacement,. I have them on my Taurus and let me tell you, you are better off with the stock shocks if they have under 50k miles.

I would however recommend the
Eibach prokit or the H&R Oem replacement spring.

The spring rates on the prokit are low enough to be real comfy, and won't kill your shocks. The H&R OEMs are higher rates, and 1/2" drop, which is good for controlling roll, but you dont get the drop you want, and you are working your shocks just a little harder than the prokit would.

If you are game to spend 600$ then get the AGX shocks with either the Prokit (softest conservative drop) or Sportline (lower vitually sam spring rates as prokit) or Nuespeed Sport (average drop higher rates)

If you can only afford the 2-300$ the prokit is your best bet, but i would strongly recommend saving to do both the better shocks and springs all at once, it will improve your ride, and give you a sporty non-bouncy ride with some adjustabilty for when the family is not around

[94uhkord]

Originally posted by Dezoris
The GR-2 are a OEM replacement,. I have them on my Taurus and let me tell you, you are better off with the stock shocks if they have under 50k miles.

I would however recommend the
Eibach prokit or the H&R Oem replacement spring.

The spring rates on the prokit are low enough to be real comfy, and won't kill your shocks. The H&R OEMs are higher rates, and 1/2" drop, which is good for controlling roll, but you dont get the drop you want, and you are working your shocks just a little harder than the prokit would.

If you are game to spend 600$ then get the AGX shocks with either the Prokit (softest conservative drop) or Sportline (lower vitually sam spring rates as prokit) or Nuespeed Sport (average drop higher rates)

If you can only afford the 2-300$ the prokit is your best bet, but i would strongly recommend saving to do both the better shocks and springs all at once, it will improve your ride, and give you a sporty non-bouncy ride with some adjustabilty for when the family is not around

I emaild KYB and one of thier reps responded saying that their springs can handle up to a 1.5" drop. I won't ever get Eibach springs, unless I was to get coilovers, but im not. I don't like the fact that they lower the same up front and in the back, my car is slightly higher in front (just like all other hondas) so the 1/4" lower drop up front w/the Neuspeeds suits me just fine. Alot of people on other boards have the GR-2's w/drop springs and although they arent adjustable, they serve their purpose and they are happy with them. Thanks for your help though.

[Dezoris]

Well that is your choice lowering the front more than the rear, only hurts weight distribution and is clearly for looks alone.

Why would you want more weight on the front of the car with a distribution of over 60/40? As if the understeer was not bad enough.

I am not knocking the GR-2s, I am only saying that your factory shocks are just as good. If you dont have as many miles. Why pay anything at all on just factory replacement shocks when you could either save that cash or put it toward a good more sporty shock you wished you would have got in the first place.

I say Prokit because of spring rates.

If you are dead set on the Neuspeeds then the GR2s are not a good choice due to the higher spring rates. You will have a bouncy ride from the shocks inablity to properly dampen the springs.

[94uhkord]

Originally posted by Dezoris
Well that is your choice lowering the front more than the rear, only hurts weight distribution and is clearly for looks alone.

Why would you want more weight on the front of the car with a distribution of over 60/40? As if the understeer was not bad enough.

I am not knocking the GR-2s, I am only saying that your factory shocks are just as good. If you dont have as many miles. Why pay anything at all on just factory replacement shocks when you could either save that cash or put it toward a good more sporty shock you wished you would have got in the first place.

I say Prokit because of spring rates.

If you are dead set on the Neuspeeds then the GR2s are not a good choice due to the higher spring rates. You will have a bouncy ride from the shocks inablity to properly dampen the springs.

Im not worried about weight distribution, its not like im gonna be hitting the auto cross circuit or something, I just want to get rid of the massive wheel well gap that currently exists, so yeah, it is just for looks. I had
H & R race spings on my 4th gen civic which lowered the car more up front as well, by a 1/4", Tokico blues, 17" rims w/40 series Hankook Ventus HR II tires. The extra weight up front made the front tires stick to the road that much better and my car handled like a slot car. With my Accord, I just want to get rid of the gap, am only using EX 15" rims, and since the GR-2's are OEM replacement, they should retain alot of the ride that is present now, even with the Neuspeed springs,it's not like im dropping it 3" and making the shocks work overtime. It's just a simple 1.5" drop, 1.75" up front, nothing to trip on. But since you think the GR-2's are such a bad choice, what springs would you recommend, remember, im on a tight budget.

[Dezoris]

I think you would be fine on the GR-2s, I dont think the ride would be very good after 5 months, and there may be more bonce as time goes on. They are by far the cheapest. That is your goal a cheap drop with new shocks go for it.

The shocks to get, even in non adjustable form will cost you about 150 more for all four, but in the long run what is that? Not much IMO.
Even when you are strapped for cash, the fact that you don't need to drop your cars right now, makes waiting abother 2 months to save up, a smart choice and it will be a better investment. But that is me.

Koni Reds, and Bilstein's are the premiere non adjustables.
(The konis are adjustable when off the car)

Then the AGX atr the other option
If you like Tockico their non adjustable is pricey for the performance compare with the Koni Specials and Bilsteins.

[94uhkord]

Originally posted by Dezoris
I think you would be fine on the GR-2s, I dont think the ride would be very good after 5 months, and there may be more bonce as time goes on. They are by far the cheapest. That is your goal a cheap drop with new shocks go for it.

The shocks to get, even in non adjustable form will cost you about 150 more for all four, but in the long run what is that? Not much IMO.
Even when you are strapped for cash, the fact that you don't need to drop your cars right now, makes waiting abother 2 months to save up, a smart choice and it will be a better investment. But that is me.

Koni Reds, and Bilstein's are the premiere non adjustables.
(The konis are adjustable when off the car)

Then the AGX atr the other option
If you like Tockico their non adjustable is pricey for the performance compare with the Koni Specials and Bilsteins.

Alright, alright, you got me on the part where you said, "the fact that you don't need to drop your car right now makes waiting another 2 monthsto save up a smart choice." This is very true. I have heard alot of nice things about the Koni Reds and I think I'll be going with those. Do you have any idea how much they should run me? Im thinking in the $280-$340 range. Thanks for putting things in another perspective for me, good looking out:bandit:

[Dezoris]

I know how it is when you want shit, and you can't afford it so you settle for something less, just to have something and you regret you spent the money. Its a hard lesson and shocks are not like a strut bar, or shift knob

The koni reds will cost you about 65-75 a shock.

Tire rack is cheap, but I think www.shox.com will be able to beat their prices if you tell them you found "X product for X amount here"

Those shocks are very good for what you want to do.

[94uhkord]

Originally posted by Dezoris
I know how it is when you want shit, and you can't afford it so you settle for something less, just to have something and you regret you spent the money. Its a hard lesson and shocks are not like a strut bar, or shift knob

The koni reds will cost you about 65-75 a shock.

Tire rack is cheap, but I think www.shox.com will be able to beat their prices if you tell them you found "X product for X amount here"

Those shocks are very good for what you want to do.

Cool bro, thanks for the link. I'll check them out and let you know what kind of deal im able to come up with. I think I'll be a happy camper with the koni reds:sun: