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Old 04-09-2006, 11:01 AM
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3000gt sl or 3000gt vr4?

Ok guys,you guys think i should buy a 3000gt sl or a 3000gt vr4?I know you everyone is going to say vr4 but i dont have that much money for the car. And i want the car from years 1998 to 1999. The vr4 will be more expense from those years. The 3000gt sl is the car that will fit my bugdet. But there is 1 problem,It only has 210 or 222 hp. If i could make the sl have the same hp as the vr4 then i will buy a 3000gt sl.If you guys choose the sl can you tell me what kind of parts i need to make the HP close to the vr4? And if you choose the vr4 you dont have to list any the mods. Thanks for readng this thread i would apreciate you guys if you help me with this question.
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Re: 3000gt sl or 3000gt vr4?

you have to realize one thing first. If your budget cannot afford the VR-4 then you will never even come close to those HP numbers on an SL because tunning takes money.
first off if you want 320 bhp from an sl your gonna need forced induction. Turbo swap will cost you a bit over a grand with used parts and about 5 grand with all new parts. and you'll only be boosting 5-6 psi to make roughly 300 hp. anything above that and you will risk serious damage. Supercharger kits run for like 4 grand plus labor and you'll make between 280 and 310 depending on your set up. for that much more money you could just get the VR-4.
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Re: 3000gt sl or 3000gt vr4?

^280 WHP according to rippmods website, and they didn't even fully max out the pulley they were using
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Re: 3000gt sl or 3000gt vr4?

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you have to realize one thing first. If your budget cannot afford the VR-4 then you will never even come close to those HP numbers on an SL because tunning takes money.
first off if you want 320 bhp from an sl your gonna need forced induction. Turbo swap will cost you a bit over a grand with used parts and about 5 grand with all new parts. and you'll only be boosting 5-6 psi to make roughly 300 hp. anything above that and you will risk serious damage. Supercharger kits run for like 4 grand plus labor and you'll make between 280 and 310 depending on your set up. for that much more money you could just get the VR-4.
Ok if i buy a 3000gt sl from 1999 it wil cost about 11.000 dollars. Plus the supercharger for about $4000.that will equal 14,000 dollars. Then how much does a vr4 from 1998 or 1999 year costs?
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Re: 3000gt sl or 3000gt vr4?

98 or 99 are still around 20k or more.

And a supercharged 3s will NEVER have the same power potential as a turbocharged 3s.
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98 or 99 are still around 20k or more.

And a supercharged 3s will NEVER have the same power potential as a turbocharged 3s.
why are they so expensiv?
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Re: 3000gt sl or 3000gt vr4?

For the price your looking at for a 99 SL you could get a second gen VR4 and possibly even throw on a 99 front end conversion. And they are so expensive because new it was about $35k and 3S's tend to hold there value well.
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Re: 3000gt sl or 3000gt vr4?

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why are they so expensiv?
Because they are supercars!
Gateway once mentioned that in the insurance books they are listed under "Urban Exotic". For what they are and what they where when they came out, they are affordable supercars.

looks to me like you simply cant afford a VR-4 but do yourself a favor and dont get the SL either. Look for something more in your price range for what you wanna do with it. Like a 240 or a prelude.
the reason I say this is because the SL is a fantastic sports car but it will never be a VR-4 and you have to accept that. If you get crazy and mod the hell out of it you would have ended up spending more money then you would have if you just got the VR-4 to start with.....and you still wont have AWD, active aero, all wheel steering, specialty brakes, ect..
the 3000GT is not a market whore like the civic or the 240 where every company makes crap for them. These cars are very rare and vey select so few companies actually make quality parts and that makes it even harder to build a equally fast SL.
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Because they are supercars!
Gateway once mentioned that in the insurance books they are listed under "Urban Exotic". For what they are and what they where when they came out, they are affordable supercars.

looks to me like you simply cant afford a VR-4 but do yourself a favor and dont get the SL either. Look for something more in your price range for what you wanna do with it. Like a 240 or a prelude.
the reason I say this is because the SL is a fantastic sports car but it will never be a VR-4 and you have to accept that. If you get crazy and mod the hell out of it you would have ended up spending more money then you would have if you just got the VR-4 to start with.....and you still wont have AWD, active aero, all wheel steering, specialty brakes, ect..
the 3000GT is not a market whore like the civic or the 240 where every company makes crap for them. These cars are very rare and vey select so few companies actually make quality parts and that makes it even harder to build a equally fast SL.
Then if the vr4 from the years 1998 or 1999 are expensev then which years the vr4 are cheap?
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Re: 3000gt sl or 3000gt vr4?

how much money are you willing to spend on a VR-4?
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Re: 3000gt sl or 3000gt vr4?

About $8000 on a vr4
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Re: 3000gt sl or 3000gt vr4?

for that you can get a 1st gen (91-93) and still have 1-2k spare.
where do you live?
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Re: 3000gt sl or 3000gt vr4?

Read the FAQ

Read the IMPORTANT: Thinking of buying a vr4 as your first car, please read
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read that first and then search.
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