engine spiting flames

2poor2tune · #1 04-02-2006, 04:08 PM

ok my zc is in my rfeinds hf now cuz he needs it more than me and its easier on his his car. so we got it in and wired up. did the dizzy work and every one of the spark plugs spark. and it turnes over but wont start up. oh and there are flames coming out of the header. please help. thanks

Hybrid1990crx · #2 04-02-2006, 04:31 PM

flames coming out the header? I don't see how this could be a problem, just means how much HP that motor has LOL.

Ok on the more serious side. Sounds like your ignition timing is off, or you wired the dizzy wrong. and if you are running it open header, than thats a bad idea. Those flames you see coming out are backfires and can burn a valve, which would mean the head is toast.

FrodoGT · #3 04-02-2006, 05:09 PM

I was just about to mention the valves...But really, almost all engine will spit flame..that what the header is for, but if you mean shooting fire over a good distance then your timing is messed up and your not getting a full burn before the exhaust valve opens. If its flaming when you let off of the gas then Im sure that pretty normal, especially from high RPM. Your mixture changes when you let off, because your no longer getting as much air but your still delivering fuel, which means thefuel will not burn until it hits the Oxygen outside of the engine, again, relatively normal.

Hybrid1990crx · #4 04-02-2006, 05:45 PM

he said its not starting.

are you getting and codes?

FrodoGT · #5 04-02-2006, 06:00 PM

Whoops, overlooked that part...Uhh you sure you didn't put the dizzy in 180 deg. backwards? Seen it before (blew the damn muffler apart in the process). And the codes definately paint a good picture...

2poor2tune · #6 04-02-2006, 11:51 PM

yeah its throwing code 8. timing. so i guess we will have to get thaT DONE BECAUSE I HAVE NO CLUE HOW TO. is that what it sounds like to you guys? i swear every time i hit the a key i hit the caps lock to.

FrodoGT · #7 04-03-2006, 12:09 AM

Hey man if you can put an engine in, you can time the damn thing! Timing is adjusted by rotating the distributor...youll need a timing light (cheap) and youll need the stock spec for it, I dont know what it is but a search will find you just what you want...

2poor2tune · #8 04-03-2006, 12:46 AM

well we have treid many spots with moving the dizzy around every where and we have got nothing out of it. but we had to mess with it to get the ecu to blink. so i guess we had it. i guess we will try again but what else could it be\? we put the rest of the exhaust back on the it has that. still sparking but it isnt throwing the flame the the back of the exhaust. i am just out of things to try. pleasde help if you can

YZ125rider21 · #9 04-03-2006, 04:00 AM

while trying to figure out what to do go to store by some shiskabob sticks and get some marshmellows and you can warm them up off the flames you are spitting out the back

YZ125rider21 · #10 04-03-2006, 04:03 AM

make sure its tdc for bottom end and top end...I had same problem and found out my dizz was 180 off cause bottom end wasnt the tdc in cylinder 1 it was tdc for 2 lol....just wanted fill you in on shit that happen to me in the past years

FuLL BLown STD · #11 04-03-2006, 11:30 AM

hey dude make sure u got ur spark plug wires right..sounds like u could possibly have them in the wrong posiiton..if not did u find the problem yet?

2poor2tune · #12 04-03-2006, 03:29 PM

yeah i just thought of that last night. i havent done it yet but it seems like that is the reason.

FrodoGT · #13 04-03-2006, 05:49 PM

Haha, I figured youd have thought of that, or know to begin with...sometimes you assume too much I suppose...Not to say your stupidor anything, you wouldn't believe the amount of crap Ive forgotten, like re-assembling my entire suspenson...and then trying to put the cv axle in, that was a stupid moment.

FuLL BLown STD · #14 04-03-2006, 05:59 PM

i got a stupid moment for u dude..when adjusted my ride height and threw the tire back on with just a quick tighting with the wrench and then dropping the car down and forgeting to get beasty and driving around the block and my front wheel comes off and cracked my FB fenders i ONCE had installed! right in the middle of the street..neighbor comes down with 2/4 and lifts the front of the car up so i can get my jack under it..neways that was embarassing.ha it happened infront of this shit talkin corolla owner too damn i felt DUMB

2poor2tune · #15 04-03-2006, 06:37 PM

haha good times. i used to have a corolla. i put a tip on it. it was held up by tie wire. and a custom intake but nowhere to plug the air sensor into. oh well at least that car passed emmissions. about the spark wiring a have to get new wires so i will be able to tell you guys later

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