Skyline USA

[900HP]

SkylineUSA is your stang in the USA or is it in your Oman. I saw many posts by you and am curious to know. Is it a real 11-second car and did use slicks for these times? If you are so in love with your stang, why did use skyline as your user log name?

Thanks for you reply.

[TerminalVelocity]

very intresting questions

[SkylineUSA]

I am in England. Yes my car was a 11sec car. Yes with slicks, there really is no other way with an A-trim.

I like Skylines, have seen a few over here. Right now I can not afford to spend 22k on a R33 GTR, so I am spending some on the stang. I plan on racing against some GTRs, but not until I am done with it. I just bought some C/C plates, front coilovers, Pro M 80 w/ 42lb injectors, and an new YS Vortech with aftercooler. I will be installing in Aug, plus I will be purchasing MM panhard, LCA, and torque arm so I can hook up all that new power.

When I get done, and hopefully win some races I will sell her, so I can by a Skyline. Time will tell.

I have not seen hardly any fox bodies over here, the Brits are alway looking at it.

[900HP]

Thanks for the clarification. I understand where your love for skylines comes from. They are indeed nice cars with four-wheel drive! That what the Mustang is missing, some traction. Another thing the GTR could be revved to almost 9000 RPMs you can never get over 6500 RPMs on a stock stang without crank bearing failure. GTR brakes are also huge when you compare them to rear drums on your 87 stang. In England it is very rare to find a stang let alone a modified one!
I have seen, driven, and owned left hand R33. It was a clean 1998 V-spec with 18 volk wheels, Trust intercooler, and mines computer for 12000 US $. In Dubai as you know they are cheap. My actual car is 1992 saleen mustang with 351W, Ported trick flow heads, custom intake, T- 76 turbo kit, and… plus NOS. Anyway there is no way you can compare a stang to a skyline. The Mustang is something else and the best thing parts availability and prices. All what is needed 28 by 12.5 wide MT slick and you can eat any GTR from dead stop. I have done that.
By the chance I had an R trim Votech in my saleen running 18 psi on a 10-rip pulley but the Turbo is something out of this world.
Do not sell your Mustang for a GTR. Is your LX a hatchback?

[SkylineUSA]

Oh, but I have a Ford 302 block that I can rev over 10,000 all day long, just like the RB26DETT. I might have it shipped over, but we will have to wait and see how this block holds up. I have a '69 351w block with me, I am debating if I should build that, if this 302 blows I will have no other choice.

Thanks for the advice 900. I completely agree with you.

Yes, its the hatchback. I like the way they look, but of course you know it has the weaker chase. I will be installing a roll cage to stiff it up a bit. I also have a compete set of cobra brakes, so this car does stop a lot better than a stock one. I also will be installing a N2O kit with in the month, I don't know if I will actually use it, I would hate to see me throw a rod. I will always tune on the safe side, I love to work on cars, but I like to drive even more.

[900HP]

Dear Skyline USA,

Of course you can build a ford engine to do anything but I was referring to your stock engine. If you are building an engine to run 10000 RPMs, am sure it is a total set up with pistons, rods, crank, SVO block and full racing heads with over 300 cfm of flow as well huge short intake/ big throttle body. What’s more important with stang engine capacity and boost you should not need to do more than 7000 RPM.
Before installing the NOS, why not change the vortech pulley to produce 10 to 11 psi but must lower your ignition timing. I wonder what belt setup you have?

The NOS is very good option on supercharged car you will like its performance specially in lower RPMs but you must start as low as 50hp with special tuning. Although when I did that I could not stop and went as high as 100 hp jets but soon after I was throwing all the engine water all over the road (302 stock block). In my Saleen am using 22 psi boost pressure and 150 hp jets but am using the stronger 351 Windsor block. With the Windsor block I never lost a head gasket and that is quite important. The head gasket problem should be major concern for the stock 302's even if you o-ring it which I did at some stage. You should rebuild your 69 351 block as it will give you so much more torque with supercharger and will allow you to produce much more power. As you know the 69 blocks is known to be the strongest. On stock lighting 351w engine, I run 18 psi of Vortech boost and 100 hp of NOS (36Ib injectors) with no problem.

I understand it will quite costly to do any additional modification to your stang while you are in England. What will happen if you had any engine failure and had to take the engine apart? I think the cost of repairs/ Parts will be tremendous (Summit performance might come handy though!!). That might not be the case if you had a garage their.

Good luck to you and please keep us updated of your modifications.

[SkylineUSA]

I have all my own tools, welder, car lift, engine hoist, engine stands, air tools out the butt, paint guns, spring compressors, 6hp 60 gallon air compressor, craftsmen tools about $1500 worth and a pit in my garage, and a lot of spare parts with me, cranks, pistons, rods, etc. I really do not think it will be that costly for me since I get free overseas shipping if something major happens

I buy most of my stuff through Summit as well, sometimes Jegs.

I would like to add its nice to talk to someone that really knows his cars. Your have a very stout car, and can see why those Skylines would see your tail lights.

I plan on 9:1 with 12psi of boost, with an aftercooler. With a stock block, I'll keep my fingers crossed and she how long she holds up.

The only problem when you O-ring a head, is that power might not blow the gasket next time, but crack the head, so I would stay away from O-ringing my stuff. Head gaskets are a pain, but there a little cheaper than the problems that can arise.

So, you are in Japan? Have you ran your car in the 1/4 yet? She should be in the high 9s if not lower if you can get it hook.

[900HP]

All these tools in your home garage (Wow) and in England! It seems you have established your self very well their. I guess, I stand to be corrected regarding repair costs!
You get free overseas shipping, do you work then for the embassy.
The aftercooler will sure help in eliminating any detonation/ pinging running 12 or even 14 PSI. The good thing about the aftercooler that you do not loss much boost pressure along it's core. It is very affective at cooling the intake charge 2.
You can get fel-pro Loc Wire ring gaskets. But you must machine the receiving groove into the heads. It might be difficult to find some body that can accomplish this job their. I find these gaskets to be very affective at prolonging the head gasket life (302 case)!
I agree with you that it is better to see the head gasket go before anything else like pistons for example, but the head sealing on the 302 is so weak. I think the aluminum heads you have might help with this problem since they normally have thick deck thickness, which will help build more consistent seal.
My saleen was purchased while I was studying in California and was build by me! I installed everything by my self. I have the same habit you have, I like to working and tuning cars. When I run in the quarter with 14 psi and no NOS, it run 10.75 with slicks and 134 mile/hour. I shipped the saleen with me back home when I graduated from California State.
Yes I live now in Japan but am not Japanese. While am staying here I could not but get my self 1998 v-spec GTR! I was lucky since the car I purchased was a project car with many modifications. Now I want to get a standard R 32 and build my self, it is more fun that way. The R32's go as low as 6000 US $ here.
Knowing both cars make me appreciate the value of the Saleen. If I had it here in Japan it would be a different case. But in Japan the GTR rules and for every day use with no slicks, the four-wheel drive makes a big advantage.
I think it is recommended to use the E-mail system rather than the forum because we might be boring everyone else. Sorry guys.

[Moppie]

Originally posted by 900HP

I think it is recommended to use the E-mail system rather than the forum because we might be boring everyone else. Sorry guys.

Not at all, infact its quite an interesting read.
Its not often you get two guys with enough money to have worked over both a mustang and a GTR each, and then sit down and compare the differnces between them.

[SkylineUSA]

Once again, I totaly agree with everything you said.

Like what Moppie said, it lets the guys that are trying to learn read what it took a while for us to learn.

Actually, I am a Navigation Tech in the Air Force. We have to pay for shipping to N.Y. but after that its on Uncle Sam.

I have not had a issue with HG yet, but that is only a matter of time when dealing with trying to get more power.

As for the machine work around here, I have no idea since I have only been here for a few months. I can imagine that it will cost me twice as much compared to the US.

[Moppie]

Originally posted by SkylineUSA


As for the machine work around here, I have no idea since I have only been here for a few months. I can imagine that it will cost me twice as much compared to the US.

I think you'll find that once you do a bit of resuarch you will find that the knowledge base in the UK regarding US V8s will surprise you. Altough not as common as localy made cars, thier still quite a popular engine. Think of ford and chevy small blocks like the Coke of engines, everyone knows something about them no matter where you are in the world.
They have also been used in enough British cars, and there are enough car enthusiasts in the UK that you will have little trouble finding ppl who can do any work you want, and will have no trouble getting you parts.
(infact you might find that alot of racing spefic parts avlaibe in the US actualy orginated in the UK from engine buildings like Cosworth etc)

[SkylineUSA]

I was referring to price differnce between the dollar and the pound. I agree about the simile of the V8.

[Moppie]

Originally posted by SkylineUSA
I was referring to price differnce between the dollar and the pound. I agree about the simile of the V8.

ohh dont even start discussing currency! please! our $ is worth about US$.5 at the moment and barly makes a 1/3 of a pound.
But, I think you'll find that parts wont be anymore expensive, but you might have already said that. I know V8 parts down this way are only the same price they are in the US, and depending on where they came from, sometimes cheaper.
But if the US Airforce is paying shipping then buy the parts in the states and get them shipped for free!

(totaly OT story here but: We had a wrecked Porsche 928 GTS at work we got from Japan, and advertised the parts on Ebay. We had a whole lot of ppl in the US want to buy the whole car, but were turned away when we mentioned how hard it would be to get the wreck there. That was untill some Airforce guys simply sent an email saying: "How much for the complete car. dont worry about shipping, well send a C5 to pick it up." The last time a C5 came here, it was carrying the US presidents armoured cars and escorts, and had an audiance watch it land)

[SkylineUSA]

I am not really at liberty to say, but that happens alot, and it does not surprise me.

[SkylineUSA]

Hey Moppie,

You like Floyd?