dude...LT1...ugh

[blakmnoncmps]

Ok so tonight I decided to go check out a car meet. It was mainly a bunch of honda civics, Sti's, Srt4's, mustangs, and one other camaro(ls1) besides my Lt1. So anywho, after seeing those cars, (meet was in Fredericksburg, VA, if any of y'all on here live in that area) and then a buddy of mine and his buddy went out to race. My friend has a '05 Focus hatch, and his buddy has maybe an 99-01 Olds Alero. Both 4 bangers. So anywho, after they had a go from a dig, i offered to race them in my camaro. So my buddy, the focus driver didn't want to but instead he'd flag us off. So that left me racing the Alero. We agreed that he'd get about a 20 foot head start. So after I let him go I punched the gas, shifted to second, third, fourth, and fifth...Never once did I catch up to him and win. The second time we raced (out of three) I missed second (let off the clutch too soon ) - obvious win for him. Then I decided, "Eff this, we're going from a straight dig". So we lined up, went from a dig, and he held onto me through third gear then I pulled on him probably by 1.5 car lengths. Why oh why, did I get beat, by an Auto-Four cylinder-four-door alero? I thought Lt1's were torque beasts. Unless I don't know how to drive? I didn't ever redline, because I didn't want to run the engine too hard. Shouldn't I have first caught up to him and then passed him the first race? I mean COME ON!! So anywho...that's my story from tonight.

P.s. If any of y'all know how to get the most out of my engine without spray please let me know. How much can i expect to get from maxing out the car? without having to forge the internals? I'm gonna do a full rebuild and tranny rebuild with a stage 2 or 3 clutch when I get the cash. Also put in a 12 bolt rearend. I know about the I/H/E, which will get done when the cash comes..but if i want a more agressive cam for top end do i need to PCM tune it? Or is that on some, but not all? I'm just pissed that I lost so badly to a four-cylinder sedan.

[FormulaLT1]

No offense but you sound like a pretty inexperinced driver. I am sure that played a major role cause ever a hurting LT1 with 2.73's would school those cars you mentioned.

[Iron]

newer STIs and srt-4s will be hard to beat if the other driver knows what theyre doing regardless of what you do(it is definately possible though..although I've never raced an STI). The Civics, focuses, and aleros should be easily tooled unless they have thousands upon thousands into performance stuff. I raced an alero with an experienced driver and "$2000 under the hood" as he quoted, and it was still a joke of a race.

[Mr. Luos]

The Alero has an Ecotec.
IF heavily modded, it could be quick.

[blakmnoncmps]

That's actually comforting. It was my second race in the car...the other was against my buddies '94 RS...beat him just fine. So it was definitely driver error . That's good to know. Means LT1's are quick (like you said STi's and Srt4's are even beatable). Around here a lot of people are afraid of "ellis juans". The guy I met last night had 20k into his car pushing 450+RWHP and 530+ RWTQ. The minute we showed up, people were like, nah you don't wanna mess with that car. But thanks, a little know-how and some practice and I should be able to run with and beat Stang GT's, correct, assuming they're completely stock, yes?

[Mr. Luos]

Originally Posted by blakmnoncmps

Around here a lot of people are afraid of "ellis juans". The guy I met last night had 20k into his car pushing 450+RWHP and 530+ RWTQ.

Dude wasted a decent amount of money somewhere.

[blakmnoncmps]

That's just what they said. It's possible they could've meant, including the car itself. It was an SLP car, running all SLP - intake to catback. Cam, headers, and on the bottle, 125 shot I think. It sounded real nice and he only runs from a dig with slicks.

[Mr. Luos]

Makes much more sense now.
SLP parts only would explain why the power numbers are low and the cost was high.

[philly rs]

those damn skittles are fun to play with but a stock lt1 can get hurt messing with a moded one. i lost to one last weekend on the highway but my tranny was broke. those wrx cars are a good race, but if u want a nice run find u an evo to race. u should be able to beat all these cars but one mistake will put u looking at tail lights. what kind of track times are u running?

[blakmnoncmps]

Yeah...I haven't been to the track around here...I haven't really started the "street racing circuit" life yet...I'm waiting for income. Once I get my car hooked up the way I want then I'll run it at the track, and perhaps a few street races...but mainly tracks.

[97cavalier]

you said you were going to do a full rebuild? What do you mean by that? like pull the motor and rebuild or just add alot of performance? Because if you pull the motor and rebuild, there is ALOT of stuff you can put in that motor while it is apart.

[philly rs]

heck yeah, if u have the loot to do that i would

[blakmnoncmps]

Yes sir, I'm going to pull the motor and break it down and replace the necessary parts. Port the head bore out the cylinders (I heard you can put concrete in the motor to make it stronger, yay or nay?), replace the cam, push rods, so just things like that. The engine has already been rebuilt at 125k but I would like it done again A: so I know it's been done properly and B: so I can do the upgrades. I'm probably going to buy all the things I can buy before I pull and rebuilt it.

[97cavalier]

WTF, concreat???? who told you that? How are the pistons going to move with concreate? And i would do a 383 stroker with it. bore .30 and get the 383 kit. Along with header and all of the other good little upgrades.

[666_speed]

i dont think the concrete idea is too bright...