Rockers and Lifters

[the_game_rock]

I plan on doing a total motor rebuild w/turbo (running around 15psi) how important are rocks and lifters? Will they help much with my performance or do I need them so my stock ones dont break? Are these good?

http://www.howellautomotive.com/inde...ROD&ProdID=227

http://www.howellautomotive.com/inde...ROD&ProdID=230

[neon_rt]

Anytime you are hot rodding these engines, you should replace the original lifters/ rockers with PT style parts. Even if you don't mod the engine, it will be more reliable if you change these parts.

[das2123]

Originally Posted by neon_rt

you should replace the original lifters/ rockers with PT style parts...it will be more reliable if you change these parts.

Agreed on the PT parts. More reliable and stronger also.

[the_game_rock]

Originally Posted by das2123

Agreed on the PT parts. More reliable and stronger also.

what do you mean pt style?

[neon_rt]

The PT Cruiser comes with the upgraded parts from the factory, you can go to a Chrysler dealer and order them from the parts counter. I've heard that the full set of lifters and rockers is only about $165, but I have never checked it out for myself. If you are going to do some serious stuff, like Turbo, your best bet is to replace your present head with a PT Cruiser Turbo head. The Cruiser/SRT4 head has it's ports in a slightly different position and has better flow. This will also allow you to use the Turbo Intake and Exhaust manifold in your turbo setup. You can get by much cheaper if you build the 2.0 bottom end for Turbo power and then go to a junk yard and hijack the Turbo,Head, Injectors, manifolds etc... from a Turbo PT or SRT4. You may decide to transplant the whole 2.4 setup into your Neon. That would be a little more work but probably worth it.

[the_game_rock]

Originally Posted by neon_rt

The PT Cruiser comes with the upgraded parts from the factory, you can go to a Chrysler dealer and order them from the parts counter. I've heard that the full set of lifters and rockers is only about $165, but I have never checked it out for myself. If you are going to do some serious stuff, like Turbo, your best bet is to replace your present head with a PT Cruiser Turbo head. The Cruiser/SRT4 head has it's ports in a slightly different position and has better flow. This will also allow you to use the Turbo Intake and Exhaust manifold in your turbo setup. You can get by much cheaper if you build the 2.0 bottom end for Turbo power and then go to a junk yard and hijack the Turbo,Head, Injectors, manifolds etc... from a Turbo PT or SRT4. You may decide to transplant the whole 2.4 setup into your Neon. That would be a little more work but probably worth it.

the head would bolt right up? I was planning on getting a stage 6 head from howell would the stage 6 be much of a difference? Would I be ok without getting a forged crank?

[das2123]

Originally Posted by the_game_rock

the head would bolt right up?

I believe so, it isn't needed but it will bolt up. Remember Len Ayala's turbo neon was pushing over 350HP on the neon engine, with forged pistons and rods.

[the_game_rock]

Originally Posted by das2123

I believe so, it isn't needed but it will bolt up. Remember Len Ayala's turbo neon was pushing over 350HP on the neon engine, with forged pistons and rods.

Would I need a forged crank? is there anywhere that does good head work thats cheap?

[das2123]

Originally Posted by the_game_rock

Would I need a forged crank?

I don't think you "need" it, but it wouldn't hurt.

Originally Posted by the_game_rock

is there anywhere that does good head work thats cheap?

I don't know anyone personally, but what are you wanting done?

[the_game_rock]

Originally Posted by das2123

I don't think you "need" it, but it wouldn't hurt.

I don't know anyone personally, but what are you wanting done?

the machine work like whats done to the stage 6 head at howell I want the best horsepower for the money

[das2123]

Originally Posted by the_game_rock

the machine work like whats done to the stage 6 head at howell I want the best horsepower for the money