is this possible?? (even worth it)

in_baseball_playa · #1 03-07-2006, 11:45 PM

i have a 88 mustang and right now it has a stock 4 cylinder in it. i just got my hands on a v6 turbo charged grand national complete motor and tranny with only 14k miles or less on it (the guy i got it from totaled his GN and sold me the parts cuz they were still in great shape). i was wondering if that GN motor could be modified to fit in the mustang and if it could would it even be worth the trouble. i havent seen it done yet thats why i aint sure.

neatofrito1618 · #2 03-07-2006, 11:56 PM

im pretty sure it can be made too fit, it would definatly be worth it.

Muscletang · #3 03-08-2006, 12:00 AM

You can pretty much fit almost any engine into any car. It may be a real bitch and you might have to move a whole lot of crap around but it can be done.

Anyway, I say go for it, once you're done you'll have a fast fox.

BigDanTheMan · #4 03-08-2006, 02:18 AM

make it easy on yourself: sell the 88 fox and pick up a GN and do the motor swap into that. GNs are really really underrated and imo sick as blank.

one love to hypsi.

giddyup50 · #5 03-08-2006, 06:44 PM

It would be easier to pick up an old Regal/GN and put it in that but, That would be cool to put it in a Mustang. Although, it is sacreligous to put anything but Ford products in a Ford!! I can hear Baby Jesus crying at just the thought of that. Tell Baby Jesus you're sorry.......SAY IT!!

neatofrito1618 · #6 03-08-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by giddyup50

It would be easier to pick up an old Regal/GN and put it in that but, That would be cool to put it in a Mustang. Although, it is sacreligous to put anything but Ford products in a Ford!! I can hear Baby Jesus crying at just the thought of that. Tell Baby Jesus you're sorry.......SAY IT!!

Since they put 3.8's in fox bodies and the GN's 3.8 and fords 3.8 are similar baby jesus would allow it. It's not like he's putting a LS1 in a mustang, that would be a sin.

Simioh · #7 03-08-2006, 10:48 PM

which has been committed before

giddyup50 · #8 03-09-2006, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by neatofrito1618

Since they put 3.8's in fox bodies and the GN's 3.8 and fords 3.8 are similar baby jesus would allow it. It's not like he's putting a LS1 in a mustang, that would be a sin.

Actually, I hate to say it but, GM's 3.8 is actually better than Ford's 3.8. If I had to choose, I'd pick the GM 3.8. It's been more reliable for a longer period of time.

AND NO......BABY JESUS WOULD NOT ALLOW GM PARTS IN FORDS!! He will allow Ford parts in GM's though. EXAMPLE: FORD 9" rearend, and sometimes engines and tranny's.

giddyup50 · #9 03-09-2006, 06:12 PM

Hey neato....What kind of performance are you getting out of your 3.8 with nitrous and 4.10's? What else do you have done? Thanks.

TheStang00 · #10 03-09-2006, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by giddyup50

Actually, I hate to say it but, GM's 3.8 is actually better than Ford's 3.8. If I had to choose, I'd pick the GM 3.8. It's been more reliable for a longer period of time.

now i know your specialty isnt the 3.8... so you probably dont happen to know that they are almost the same engine. infact, if i remember correctly, buick developed the engine; when ford wanted a larger v6 quickly, they simply copied it. that was back in the 70s so there are differences through their evolutions, but they come from the same origin. they are both known for having invincible blocks also. and the ford 3.8 is very reliable. infact all you need to do to a 99-04 mustang 3.8 to make it hold insane boost levels like the GN, all you need are new rods&pistons. no one has found the limit on a ford 3.8 yet.

neatofrito1618 · #11 03-09-2006, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by giddyup50

Hey neato....What kind of performance are you getting out of your 3.8 with nitrous and 4.10's? What else do you have done? Thanks.

I have bolt on's, 4,10's, and nitrous(my exact mods are in my sig), i havent gone to the track yet since im have a problem with my 4.10's and i have to replace them. But once there replaced/broken in im gonna go to the track and im planning to run around 13.6 with nitrous and 14.7 N/A with bolt on's and 4.10's. Right now im savin up for my H/C/I swap, 4.3 forged stroker(im gonna up the nitrous to 125 once i get forged internals), and a few other things. Im hoping to hit 11's when its all done.

TheStang00 · #12 03-09-2006, 06:50 PM

^ see the ford 3.8 isnt bad at all

neatofrito1618 · #13 03-09-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheStang00

now i know your specialty isnt the 3.8... so you probably dont happen to know that they are almost the same engine. infact, if i remember correctly, buick developed the engine; when ford wanted a larger v6 quickly, they simply copied it. that was back in the 70s so there are differences through their evolutions, but they come from the same origin. they are both known for having invincible blocks also. and the ford 3.8 is very reliable. infact all you need to do to a 99-04 mustang 3.8 to make it hold insane boost levels like the GN, all you need are new rods&pistons. no one has found the limit on a ford 3.8 yet.

Yeah, Matt has been running 550rwhp for a while now on a stock block and crank, Justin is also running 450rwhp on stock internals and his engine is fine too.

giddyup50 · #14 03-09-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheStang00

now i know your specialty isnt the 3.8... so you probably dont happen to know that they are almost the same engine. infact, if i remember correctly, buick developed the engine; when ford wanted a larger v6 quickly, they simply copied it. that was back in the 70s so there are differences through their evolutions, but they come from the same origin. they are both known for having invincible blocks also. and the ford 3.8 is very reliable. infact all you need to do to a 99-04 mustang 3.8 to make it hold insane boost levels like the GN, all you need are new rods&pistons. no one has found the limit on a ford 3.8 yet.

You are correct. All I know about the 3.8 is what I've heard/read. Which I admitt is not very much. But the Ford 3.8 had it's problems with blowing headgaskets. I'm sure they've fixed the problem since then but those engines are still out there in pre 1996 Taurus's, 94-98 Mustangs, Cougars, and T-Birds. Some have had new gaskets and some have had to get a new engine because of that problem.

As for 99-04, I'm sure Ford has done it's homework, and it's alot better than before. I know it has more horse than before. I'm not saying the Ford 3.8 is bad now, I'm just saying if I had to choose I'd pick the GM 3.8. But then you say "all you need to do to a 99-04 Mustang 3.8 to make it hold insane boost levels LIKE THE GN is new rods and pistons". Hmmm.....OK....sounds like the GM 3.8 can already handle "insane boost" stock. I'm sure you know that installing new rods and pistons is not a small job. You're rebuilding the whole engine. I know you know this last statement of mine, I'm just using it to prove my point. Not trying to be a smartass to you.

giddyup50 · #15 03-09-2006, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by neatofrito1618

Yeah, Matt has been running 550rwhp for a while now on a stock block and crank, Justin is also running 450rwhp on stock internals and his engine is fine too.

WOW!! That's impressive. Especially for a V6. Can he drive it a long distance on the highway though? If not, still impressive!!

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