EVO IX RS vs. Camaro SS

[3000ways]

Well my last thread created a lot of controvery, so I guess I'll post this race up just to show I do not BS. So I was on the 57 South Freeway heading towards the city of Orange, when a very nice Camaro SS pulls a long my side. I noticed it, but didn't do anything, but he started taking off and slowing down, not much I could do with a car in front of me. So anyways it starts to clear up and the SS is still by my side, so I decide to have a go. So I look over at him and ask him if he wants to go, and he nods yes. So I downshift to third and take off, and then shift to 4th and I have about a car on him, but he is creeping up, and by the time I shift to 5th he is ahead by half a car and pulling. At around 120mph I let off and he is about a car, maybe a car and a half in front. So I lost, but I expected too, those Camaro SS are pretty fast from a roll. I just wanted to see how I would hold up. The Camaro SS looked stock, atleast the exhaust did. Oh well you win some and you lose some. It's cool though, I was starting to think my EVO was losing power or something, I guess I just am getting use to the power. Time to mod.

[rice(er)]

evo 9 rs.......how many models are there for the new evos? rs.....is that the turbocharged one? there is also a model that comes N/A correct? is the MR models sold here in the states? yeh nice race

[Morphius289]

I believe all the new Evo's are using a turbocharged 4G63. And yes, the MR is still sold in the states.

Here's some info on the RS from their site.

Comes standard with: a factory performance-tuned (2.0-liter, MIVEC DOHC, 16-valve, turbocharged and intercooled) engine with 286 horsepower and 289 lb-ft of torque, front-mounted air-to-air intercooler, close-ratio five-speed manual transmission with aluminum shift knob* and Teflon-coated cables, full-time AWD with an electronic Active Center Differential (with three driver-selectable modes—tarmac, snow and gravel), aluminum body panels (roof, front fenders and hood), rear-end strut bar, turbo boost gauge kit*, four-wheel ventilated Brembo® disc brakes, 17" x 8" double-five spoke Enkei® aluminum alloy wheels, speed-rated Yokohama P235/45 Advan® (high-grip, soft-compound) radial tires, front Recaro® bucket seats with premium Alcantara® fabric, leather-wrapped Momo® three-spoke steering wheel and more.


As far as I can tell, one of these would give an SS a run for their money. Aren't these posting mid-13 1320 times? An SS may have a V8, but that doesn't make it invincible.

[stwatson]

To be honest im kinda surprised that the SS won...Ive seen vids of the Evo IX takin out ferrari's from a dig. Now this is completely different on the highway because the all wheel drive actually hurts the performance of the Evo because its splitting up all the power. I have a Lincoln Mark VIII and Ive been able to beat modded WRX Sti's on the highway but from a dig....i get my ass handed to me. The RWD V8's are more powerful on the highway and can pull a lot harder than the AWD forced induction 4 cylinders. Either way both are sweet cars and I would love to have one....

[BullDog71ss]

Nice run. Unlike a lot of previous small block V8's, the LS1 has some poop on the highway.

[TatII]

Originally Posted by Morphius289

I believe all the new Evo's are using a turbocharged 4G63. And yes, the MR is still sold in the states.

Here's some info on the RS from their site.

Comes standard with: a factory performance-tuned (2.0-liter, MIVEC DOHC, 16-valve, turbocharged and intercooled) engine with 286 horsepower and 289 lb-ft of torque, front-mounted air-to-air intercooler, close-ratio five-speed manual transmission with aluminum shift knob* and Teflon-coated cables, full-time AWD with an electronic Active Center Differential (with three driver-selectable modes—tarmac, snow and gravel), aluminum body panels (roof, front fenders and hood), rear-end strut bar, turbo boost gauge kit*, four-wheel ventilated Brembo® disc brakes, 17" x 8" double-five spoke Enkei® aluminum alloy wheels, speed-rated Yokohama P235/45 Advan® (high-grip, soft-compound) radial tires, front Recaro® bucket seats with premium Alcantara® fabric, leather-wrapped Momo® three-spoke steering wheel and more.


As far as I can tell, one of these would give an SS a run for their money. Aren't these posting mid-13 1320 times? An SS may have a V8, but that doesn't make it invincible.

yaeh the RS is a very basic lightweight EVO, its the second fastest EVO you can get. only the MR is faster.

they usually post times anywhere from low 13's to high 12's stock. and they trap anywhere from 103-105mph stock. very very quick cars.

you definitily did better then i thought, you must've surprised the hell out of him too.

[GForce957]

What makes the MR faster?

Good race, staying that close on the highway with an SS speaks well of your car 's all around performance

[-The Stig-]

Originally Posted by GForce957

What makes the MR faster?

Good race, staying that close on the highway with an SS speaks well of your car 's all around performance

Gearing I do believe, the 6 speed manual helps make it a bit quicker than the RS which is lighter weight.

[CassiesMan]

Originally Posted by rice(er)

evo 9 rs.......how many models are there for the new evos? rs.....is that the turbocharged one? there is also a model that comes N/A correct? is the MR models sold here in the states? yeh nice race

You. Car. Over cliff. Now.

Good race, I'm looking at Evos right now for a next ride, as well as STis and last gen F Bodies. I'm leaning more towards the Evo, but I kinda like the interior styling ot the STi better, and I found a Camaro with a 402 for 15k...God, decisions. Anyways, again, nice race, you win some, you loose some. Now, get a Turboback and an ECU reflash, and find that 'Maro.


Or you could be a real bad ass and take of that weak sauce hair dryer and get a GT42R...

[youngvr4]

check out its trap speed after running 13.4

This Camaro SS, powered by the same 320-hp LS1 V8 as our Pontiac Firebird Formula WS-6, ran a 13.42 at 106.15 mph - more than quick enough to beat archrival Mustang and assure its place on the quickest-Camaros-of-all-time list. However, it's not even close to the blistering time delivered by the Pontiac. Why?

The answer, again, is traction. The Camaro is very difficult to launch cleanly. Too many revs, like anything over 1500, and the tires go up in smoke for all of First gear. Too few and the car bogs. The Firebird, however, is very easy to launch. Tach up to 2500 rpm, ride the clutch just a bit and you're out of there. Why the difference between the two seemingly identical cars? That's like asking why two socks go in the laundry and only one comes out. It's one of the mysteries of the world, especially when you consider that both cars wear the same-size Goodyear Eagle F1 tires, have the same engine, same gearing, etc.

Despite being slower than its GM brother, the Camaro is still one of the most fun cars to blast down the track thanks to its awesome engine, its strong clutch, its short throw shifter and its musclecar soundtrack. This car rumbles up to the line. It launches with a roar from its two exhaust pipes and it sounds like Steve McQueen's Mustang running after that Dodge Charger on the gear changes.

Test Summary:
Chevrolet Camaro SS

* Base price: $20,870, Price as tested: $27,466
* Engine: 5.7-liter/346.0 cu.-in. OHV 16v V8
* HP: 320 @ 5200 rpm, Torque: 345 ft.-lb. @ 4400 rpm
* Trans: 6M, Drivetrain: front engine/rear drive
* Rear axle: 3.42:1 limited-slip
* Curb weight: 3439 lb, Weight/HP ratio: 10.8
* Horsepower per liter: 56.1, Tires: 275/40ZR17
* Acceleration: 0-30 mph: 2.27 sec. 0-60 mph: 5.27 sec.
* 1/4 mile: 13.42 sec. @ 106.15 mph

[VR43000GT]

Nice death, sounds like it could have been a whole different race if you were guys were at a stop. But you weren't and he had you beat at the top end.

[Morphius289]

Originally Posted by youngvr4

check out its trap speed after running 13.4

This Camaro SS, powered by the same 320-hp LS1 V8 as our Pontiac Firebird Formula WS-6, ran a 13.42 at 106.15 mph - more than quick enough to beat archrival Mustang and assure its place on the quickest-Camaros-of-all-time list. However, it's not even close to the blistering time delivered by the Pontiac. Why?

The answer, again, is traction. The Camaro is very difficult to launch cleanly. Too many revs, like anything over 1500, and the tires go up in smoke for all of First gear. Too few and the car bogs. The Firebird, however, is very easy to launch. Tach up to 2500 rpm, ride the clutch just a bit and you're out of there. Why the difference between the two seemingly identical cars? That's like asking why two socks go in the laundry and only one comes out. It's one of the mysteries of the world, especially when you consider that both cars wear the same-size Goodyear Eagle F1 tires, have the same engine, same gearing, etc.

Despite being slower than its GM brother, the Camaro is still one of the most fun cars to blast down the track thanks to its awesome engine, its strong clutch, its short throw shifter and its musclecar soundtrack. This car rumbles up to the line. It launches with a roar from its two exhaust pipes and it sounds like Steve McQueen's Mustang running after that Dodge Charger on the gear changes.

Test Summary:
Chevrolet Camaro SS

* Base price: $20,870, Price as tested: $27,466
* Engine: 5.7-liter/346.0 cu.-in. OHV 16v V8
* HP: 320 @ 5200 rpm, Torque: 345 ft.-lb. @ 4400 rpm
* Trans: 6M, Drivetrain: front engine/rear drive
* Rear axle: 3.42:1 limited-slip
* Curb weight: 3439 lb, Weight/HP ratio: 10.8
* Horsepower per liter: 56.1, Tires: 275/40ZR17
* Acceleration: 0-30 mph: 2.27 sec. 0-60 mph: 5.27 sec.
* 1/4 mile: 13.42 sec. @ 106.15 mph

Mmm 345 ft.-lb's of Corvette-lickin goodness.

[BullDog71ss]

Originally Posted by Morphius289

Mmm 345 ft.-lb's of Corvette-lickin goodness.

Corvette lickin whaaa???

It's the same motor as the vette had in those years, just with a bit less HP. The Vette is still faster by a good amount due to more power and mostly less weight...

[youngvr4]

he meant 345lbs of corvette tq, the c5 has the same amount of tq,

from the LS1 engine

[BullDog71ss]

Originally Posted by youngvr4

he meant 345lbs of corvette tq, the c5 has the same amount of tq,

from the LS1 engine

Okay, I suppose that makes more sense. I thought he ment the Camaro was a corvette killer when he used the term "lickin".

Still, lickin' is a strange word usage.