What does a boosted LeBaron look like ?

[HyOctane]

C'mon Polygon Im not meaning to bash but.. we wanna see it. What does a boosted LeBaron look like under the hood with a Garret turbo ? Custom manifold ? Custom downpipe ? Where's the intercooler getting the ambient air ? It wouldnt be worth it to me to get an intercooler in there b/c there is little to no grill on the front fascia. C'mon though man.. suprise us ! We wanna see what you got !! lol... Gatta get them groceries fast you know !

HyOctane

[Polygon]

Honestly, ignorance strikes again. Let me tell you something PAL, my LeBaron is BONE stock. It came with a Garrett T3 turbo, it came with an intercooler. I can take my engine and turbo up to 30PSI if I want to, all I would have to change is the wastegate/BOV and the intercooler. Here are my mods:

Bosch Platinum plugs: They suck, I am replacing them with NGK, BIG mod there.

K&N Filter: I like not having to buy another air filter, just clean this one out. Look a whopping 3HP gain there, look I have 208HP.

Centerforce Clutch: I have heard these don't like higher horsepower and burn up easy, so it is being changed as well.

The rest is cosmetic, my sig reads that all the mods will come after the turbo blows, which I might add that everything on the car is original including the turbo, nothing has been replaced and the car has 150,000 miles on it and the turbo is still pumping 12-14PSI. Let me run some stuff down for you:

I paid: $3,000
Gas Mileage: 35 average
Horsepower: 205
Torque: 225 ft/lbs
0-60: 6.5
1/4 mile low to mid 14s.
Miles: 151,123

Once again these numbers are stock. Personally I think my car looks damn good, and can kick the shit out of most ANY stock four banger on the market including yours, so you sir can kiss my ASS.

Have a nice day basher.

Oh and BTW, pics of everything will be up soon.

[Celica Alltrac]

so you are running at 12 to 14psi and only making that little hp and torque? dang. b/c the alltrac runs at 7psi and produces an even 200hp and 200ftlb. so buying a ball and spring boost controller ($50 or less) and your k&n filter it would be well outproducing your specs.

and besides why would you want to post pics of a stock lebaron???

[DragonKnight]

Originally posted by Polygon
Once again these numbers are stock. Personally I think my car looks damn good, and can kick the shit out of most ANY stock four banger on the market including yours, so you sir can kiss my ASS.

Care to bring it to DSMTalk.com? Or how about I-Club.com? There's some *stock* four-bangers that'll show you low 14s to high 13s from their rides. Even better, lessee one of your prized modded LeBaron bitches match this shit:

http://www.dsmtimes.org/

Or when was the last time a LeBaron won the SCCA Solo2 Nationals?

-Rich

[DragonKnight]

BTW, here's some info on the LeBaron:

http://carpoint.msn.com/vip/usedsing...id=595&src=vip
http://www.auto-enthusiast.com/Shelb...ebaron_gts.htm

And of course, here:
http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...sler%20LeBaron

:finger:

-Rich, "Yes, I am a basher but who gives a big flying fuck!"

[Polygon]

Originally posted by Celica Alltrac
so you are running at 12 to 14psi and only making that little hp and torque? dang. b/c the alltrac runs at 7psi and produces an even 200hp and 200ftlb. so buying a ball and spring boost controller ($50 or less) and your k&n filter it would be well outproducing your specs.

and besides why would you want to post pics of a stock lebaron???

1. Chrysler put a restrictive muffler, exaust system, and intake on the LeBarons among a couple other things which need to be changed to get it's full potential.

2. I have seen people run cars, including LeBarons with my same exect engine, turbo, and drivetrain combo running 10s and some even running into the 9s. With very little I can get my car running in the low 12s.

Why not post a picture of it? I am proud of my car, it is one of the fastest four bangers you can buy, BTW I do like your Celica it is a good performer and looks a lot better than the new ones.

And thank's for not being ignorant.

Originally posted by DragonKnight

Care to bring it to DSMTalk.com? Or how about I-Club.com? There's some *stock* four-bangers that'll show you low 14s to high 13s from their rides. Even better, lessee one of your prized modded LeBaron bitches match this shit:

http://www.dsmtimes.org/

Or when was the last time a LeBaron won the SCCA Solo2 Nationals?

-Rich

Then they aren't stock moron. There is NO Talon, Elcpise, or Laser that could come right off the lot and run low 14s to high 13s, if they are they aren't running stock. I have kicked the shit out of many stock GSXs, GS-Ts, and TSis.

As for SCCA, I don't know, I wasn't watching them in 1989 jackass.

Originally posted by DragonKnight
BTW, here's some info on the LeBaron:

http://carpoint.msn.com/vip/usedsing...id=595&src=vip
http://www.auto-enthusiast.com/Shelb...ebaron_gts.htm

And of course, here:
http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...sler%20LeBaron

:finger:

-Rich, "Yes, I am a basher but who gives a big flying fuck!"

1. Carpoint only has information on the non Turbo LeBarons.

2. That is a GTS not a GTC moron.

3. Go ahead and be a basher, but if you take it too far don't be suprised when they ban your ass.

[Grendel]

What is the point of this thread? Why start a thread just to bash someone's car?

-Grendel

[Celica Alltrac]

Originally posted by Polygon

1. Chrysler put a restrictive muffler, exaust system, and intake on the LeBarons among a couple other things which need to be changed to get it's full potential.

so in other words if you had to modify the whole intake and exhaust system then it would produce more power. as would the celica. the exhaust is very restrictive on it as well. but you mean to tell me that if a 3sgte motor with the exact same boost levels and mods would have less power than your motor?? how much hp can your bottom end handle? whats the redline on your car?

[Polygon]

All I was saying with that was, your Alltrac might be less restrictive, also is it a 4cyl?

As for my redline, it starts at 6000 RPM.

[Self]

Originally posted by Polygon

2. I have seen people run cars, including LeBarons with my same exect engine, turbo, and drivetrain combo running 10s and some even running into the 9s. With very little I can get my car running in the low 12s

I'm interested to see some running 9s...Point me in the right direction, if you would...

[Polygon]

I have no proof, that is the sad thing. I saw this guy in an 89' Baron run 9.7, he was running the 2.2 engine and Garrett T03 from a GTC. He had a lot of heavy mods and by NO means was a daily driver anymore. I saw this at bandemiers speedway back in Colorado. I wish I had a video to show you guys.

I don't know if you did see the video of the K car "Relentless" race the Supra. He pulled a 10.4 @ 131 MPH I think, if not I will post the movie up for you guys.

[kidrocket]

mad props to polygon for two reasons:

1. Keeping it civil in here when others, >not naming names, and not even people on this thread,< are ignorant and immature.

2. Going your own way. I know you get shit from cats for rocking the baron, but i say more power to you. Its a lot harder to mod a car that has little to no aftermarket support. To tell you the truth, id like to mod my 1975 beetle. Ive seen daily driver beetles running 10s. keep ya head up dog

Travis

[Celica Alltrac]

Originally posted by Polygon
All I was saying with that was, your Alltrac might be less restrictive, also is it a 4cyl?

As for my redline, it starts at 6000 RPM.

your redline starts at 6000rpm? redline is where you stop revving any higher. you do know what a redline is right?

oh and also i guess you don't know much about the alltrac that doesn't make you ignorant like you have called other people about not knowing anything about your car. that just makes you uninformed.

and you don't know for a fact that the alltrac is less restrictive or not. but i can guarantee you that if both cars had the exact same boost pressure, exhaust, intake, the toyota engine would be way ahead. the block is capable of handling 400hp. so they are in no case a weak motor.

the engine was designed to be used in the fia world rally championship. one of the hardest forms of motorsport racing out there. these are the specs on it.

Code: 3S-GTE
Type: Inline 4, aluminum head
ValveTrain: DOHC, 16 Valve (4 Per Cylinder)
Displacement: 1998cc (2.0 Liter)
Bore/Stroke: 86mmX86mm
Compression: 8.8:1
Output HP: 200@6000 Rpm
Output Torque: 200 lb/ft@3200 Rpm
Redline: 7200 Rpm
Turbo: Ct-26 6 Bolt Turbo With a Twin Entry Turbo System

this is a very rugged motor that was developed with rally racing in mind. due to the rules of the fia this car would have to be produced and sold so the car could be used in the rally. this motor was very well engineered for strength and reliable power output. so by claiming you have the best 4 cylinder motor and not knowing that the alltrac has a 4 cylinder seems to make you very narrow sighted. you don't want to see what competition is out there against your car so you just make claims and try to belive you have the best. but trust me there are better motors out there and its not in your lebaron.

[DragonKnight]

Then they aren't stock moron. There is NO Talon, Elcpise, or Laser that could come right off the lot and run low 14s to high 13s, if they are they aren't running stock. I have kicked the shit out of many stock GSXs, GS-Ts, and TSis.

OoOo, name calling. Guess I get to call you "LeBaron Biatch".

Never trust magazine numbers. Bring that shit to DSMTalk and you'll get the shaft big time. It's called feather-revving your turbo to negate the bad effects of vacuum and producing major boost at launch ON ALL 4 WHEELS. Ever saw an AWD launch? It'll make your 2WD spread its butt cheeks. Only an mid-ship MR2 can match it.

Besides, the high 13s are the WRXs which you conveniently left out on that list of forums I provided. Keep talking, you're actually doing me a favor.

As for SCCA, I don't know, I wasn't watching them in 1989 jackass.

SCCA is every year in every season, regional and national. It doesn't HAVE to be 1989.

1. Carpoint only has information on the non Turbo LeBarons.

2. That is a GTS not a GTC moron.

3. Go ahead and be a basher, but if you take it too far don't be suprised when they ban your ass.

1. Turbo is listed there.

Looky here:


2. I choose the car with the horsepower listed. You got evidence like a scanned brochure for your little GTC, then post it.

3. "Neener, neener! They're gonna ban you. They're gonna ban you!"

Whateverz foo. :smoker2:

-Rich

[Polygon]

Originally posted by kidrocket
mad props to polygon for two reasons:

1. Keeping it civil in here when others, >not naming names, and not even people on this thread,< are ignorant and immature.

2. Going your own way. I know you get shit from cats for rocking the baron, but i say more power to you. Its a lot harder to mod a car that has little to no aftermarket support. To tell you the truth, id like to mod my 1975 beetle. Ive seen daily driver beetles running 10s. keep ya head up dog

Travis

Thanks a lot man.

Originally posted by Celica Alltrac


your redline starts at 6000rpm? redline is where you stop revving any higher. you do know what a redline is right?

oh and also i guess you don't know much about the alltrac that doesn't make you ignorant like you have called other people about not knowing anything about your car. that just makes you uninformed.

and you don't know for a fact that the alltrac is less restrictive or not. but i can guarantee you that if both cars had the exact same boost pressure, exhaust, intake, the toyota engine would be way ahead. the block is capable of handling 400hp. so they are in no case a weak motor.

the engine was designed to be used in the fia world rally championship. one of the hardest forms of motorsport racing out there. these are the specs on it.

Code: 3S-GTE
Type: Inline 4, aluminum head
ValveTrain: DOHC, 16 Valve (4 Per Cylinder)
Displacement: 1998cc (2.0 Liter)
Bore/Stroke: 86mmX86mm
Compression: 8.8:1
Output HP: 200@6000 Rpm
Output Torque: 200 lb/ft@3200 Rpm
Redline: 7200 Rpm
Turbo: Ct-26 6 Bolt Turbo With a Twin Entry Turbo System

this is a very rugged motor that was developed with rally racing in mind. due to the rules of the fia this car would have to be produced and sold so the car could be used in the rally. this motor was very well engineered for strength and reliable power output. so by claiming you have the best 4 cylinder motor and not knowing that the alltrac has a 4 cylinder seems to make you very narrow sighted. you don't want to see what competition is out there against your car so you just make claims and try to belive you have the best. but trust me there are better motors out there and its not in your lebaron.

I was merely curious about you car because, no, I don't know anything about it. It was just wondering if it was a 4cyl or a 6cyl. It is an impressive engine you have there, and from you specs I can see one thing that I forgot to mention, my engine is SOHC, I only have 2 valves per cylinder, so your car is less restrictive. As for my block, many people have run it over 500HP, the block is very durable. I have always come to think of the redline as a certain area of the power band that is unhealthy for the engine, in my case between 6000 and 7000 RPM. My tach ends at 7000RPM so that is my redline. And just remember that I said "ONE" of the best, I never said my engine was the best 4 cylinder. I would like to know how I am narrow minded and how I have demonstrated that I don't see the competition out there?

Here are my engine specs:

Type: Inline 4, aluminum head
ValveTrain: SOHC, 8 Valve (2 Per Cylinder)
Displacement: 2.2 Liter
Compression: 8.0:1
Output HP: 205
Output Torque: 225 lb/ft
Redline: 7000 Rpm
Turbo: Garrett T03

Now you can see why I only have 205 HP from 12 - 14 PSI. Maybe I'll see if I can find an aftermaket head with 4 valves per cylinder. Plus my compression is a tich lower than yours, along with my restrictive intake and exaust.

Never trust magazine numbers. Bring that shit to DSMTalk and you'll get the shaft big time.

No shit, thats because they all drive DSMs, like they are going to say "yeah my car aint' that fast."

It is every year in every season, regional and national. It doesn't HAVE to be 1989.

Yeah, but don't you think they would run my car in 1989 and then the 1990 GTC in 1990? They did stop making the GTC in 1995 and by 1992 the GTC sucked. I really doubt anyone would be racing them in 2002.

1. Turbo is listed there.

2. I choose the car with the horsepower listed. You got evidence like a scanned brochure for your little GTC, then post it.

3. "Neener, neener! They're gonna ban you. They're gonna ban you!"

Whateverz foo.

1. Look under GTC and you will see that they don't have the 2.2L listed as an option. MSN Carpoint is one of the worst places to find specs, they don't even have the right engines listed for the right lines of LeBaron.

2. I hope they do ban you, you are giving your fellow Toyota drivers a bad name.