Whats the difference; GTP and a GTP Comp G

[xeroinfinity]

Other than price whats the difference between the regular GTP and the Comp G series?

Is it mostly show, or is it go?

I had just seen one for a decent price and though whats the diff, anyway thanks for any input!

[bearinns08]

I thought the comp G(Competition Group) had the paddle shifters on the steering wheel like f1 cars. im not sure if the regular gtps have those or not. im really not sure of any other differences.

[BNaylor]

From Car Connection:

Four grade levels

Those parts form four grades of Grand Prix GT1, GT2, GTP and GTP/Comp G, with 60 percent of buyers expected to choose GT1 or GT2, 30 percent GTP and just 10 percent opting for Comp G's total performance experience. All cars get what Pontiac bills as "the next-generation WideTrack Handling System" that starts with four-wheel independent suspension (struts up front/tri-link with anti-roll bar at the rear) with four distinct phases of suspension damping. There are also direct-acting front and rear stabilizer bars to limit body roll, standard 16-inch wheels on GTs, (GTP and Comp G get 17s) and three different tires and axle ratios on depending on model. Brakes are four-wheel discs with standard anti-lock and tire pressure-monitoring system (except GT1).

Grand Prix power emanates from the familiar 3.8-liter V-6, but GM engineers massaged this Series III 3800 with an engine management computer with 50 percent more memory and a 60 percent faster operating speed. It paved the way for a new speed-based electronic throttle control (ETC) system, more precise engine controls and fuel delivery, and a broad, flat torque curve. A fifth-generation Eaton supercharger that's thirteen percent more efficient than last year's unit helps raise the GTP's horsepower to 240 from 260; torque remains at 280 pound-feet. Numbers for the normally aspirated 3800 stay 200-hp and 225 lb-ft, while the former base model (SE) and its 3100 V-6 disappear.

GM's 4T65-E four-speed Hydra-Matic is the sole transmission, but Comp G Package cars get TAPshift (Touch Activated Power) manual shift mode via steering wheel-mounted paddles. "That idea came from the Ferrari Formula 1 cars; they have the most prominent paddles," said Bob Kraut. To its raison d'être: "Our philosophy was to make it seamless and act more like a manual transmission. We wanted to make it the fasting shifting, to take out the hesitation; and at six-tenths of a second, I don't think anybody else is faster." TAPshift does work well; but it doesn't quite give you the positive, feels-like-a-manual as Infiniti's G35s do; and BMW's SMG (a $2,400 option) is in a class by itself.

Speaking of options, the Comp G Package adds $1,395 to the GTP's $26,495 sticker. Besides TAPshift, it adds V-rated 225/55 performance tires on 17-inch multi-spoke wheels; a 3.29:1 axle ratio; "Info Tech," a multi-function trip computer that includes a heads-up display with a stealth mode; Magnasteer II and StabiliTrak Sport. The latter two noticeably improve Grand Prix's driving dynamics. MagnaSteer II is speed sensitive and per customer input, more effort is needed during cornering or aggressive maneuvers, much less during low-speed maneuvering or parking. "StabiliTrak Sport is different than two-channel StabiliTrak," Kraut told us. "It's four-channel run by a Bosch 5.3 system. Our benchmark was to make it like a tap on the shoulder rather than a bear hug. The person who drives this car doesn't want their driving style interfered with; it's the Libertarian version of driving if you will, with less intervention involved."

[xeroinfinity]

thanks for all that skiny bnaylor3400! The car I am looking at is nice, an 04 53k, blk, most of the other options you mentioned too, and heated seats, 6disc chngr, leather, sunrooof and the Tap shift, get this they are asking $14k!

I think its a steal
So is the HUD all that good of a thing, and do you know if it can be turned off? I hav seen a few older HUDs, they didnt look very good and any glare from light made it hard to see.

How about the Paddle shifters, I bet they are fun. Well till you get pulled over
Thanks again guys!

[BNaylor]

14K? Great deal if it has all those options and the Comp G package. That is well below NADA average trade-in not just average retail.

[DuffGTP06]

The HUD comes in good use to me at night on the freeway since I tend to get pretty far ahead of the speed limit and I'm always tryin to keep an eye out for a state patrolman. I've never had any problem with a glare or anything and you can turn it on and off anytime you want. Friends are always impressed with it and think it's one of the coolest things theyve ever seen. I like it

[xeroinfinity]

Originally Posted by bnaylor3400

14K? Great deal if it has all those options and the Comp G package. That is well below NADA average trade-in not just average retail.

I hadnt checked the Kell Blu book or anything for what is worth, It is a really good deal. And thats why I am suspicous as to why...

Originally Posted by DuffGTP06

The HUD comes in good use to me at night on the freeway since I tend to get pretty far ahead of the speed limit and I'm always tryin to keep an eye out for a state patrolman. I've never had any problem with a glare or anything and you can turn it on and off anytime you want. Friends are always impressed with it and think it's one of the coolest things theyve ever seen. I like it

Thanks for the update DuffGTP06. I guess at night it would be nice, and the fact they did hav a switch to turn it off was kool!
Maybe the ones that told me it was trouble, hav vision problems(night blindness) that make the glare 'look' worse then it really is.

I did go and check it out this weekend. For 2yrs old it still smelt of Leather! Heated seats are sweet. Though a heated Steering Wheel would be the shit!
The padles aare slick! Only I had to repossition my hands from my normal driving habbit to reach them good.
It Freaking flys! I was really impressed for a FWD!
I am always looking for the Limited quanity autos. Something to save for Down the road, like my kids' College fund!
Thankx again guys!

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by xeroinfinity

I hadnt checked the Kell Blu book or anything for what is worth, It is a really good deal. And thats why I am suspicous as to why...
Thankx again guys!

It could just be a reduction in value due to the mileage since it sounds high for a two year old car. Also, like any used car run it through the mill. Carfax and check very carefully for any possible accident damage. Ask for the maintenance history. If all checks out then it is no doubt a good deal.

[xeroinfinity]

heres some pics of it. They list 16k on the web, but on hte car it says 14k.
04 GTP COMP G

[nikita7]

Sounds like a good deal, but I would inspect it professionally first. In two years car went thought almost 60k miles including winter weather.