Pioneer Radio Wire Installation Question???

[toicy4ya]

Sup guys,

I have a Pioneer Head Unit (model#DEH-P8600MP), upon reading the installation manual I read some conflicting information. The Manual reads, "When an external amp is being used be sure not to connect the blue/white lead to the amp's power terminal. Likewise, do not connect the blue/white lead to the power terminal of the auto-antenna. Such connection could cause excessive current drain and malfunction." However, the diagram to the left of it clearly show's the Blue/White lead connected to it and reads "to system control terminal of the power amp or auto antenna relay control terminal." Which is it? I'm confused?

Additionally, I'm a little confused on the yellow and red wire from the radio. My car has a "ACC Position" which wire should I connect, the Red (which reads to electric terminal controlled by ignition switch (12V DC) On/Off) or the yellow (To terminal always supplied with power regardless of ignition switch position)? Or do I connect them both? I noticed my brand new battery has been draining a little bit and I have a sneaky suspicion this might be the cause. Please get back to me.

Thanks

[gthompson97]

The "ACC" is your accessory position, it only has power when the key is turned on. I don't know if you're aware, but the Eclipse has a different style of wiring. All the wires are different than the US colors.

[gthompson97]

And in your first paragraph, I believe it means do not connect the blue wire to the 12v source on the amp, connect it to the Remote Lead Turn-on.

[gthompson97]

Here's the Mitusbishi wire colors compared to those used today.

http://www.installdr.com/Harnesses/M...shi-Wiring.pdf

Damn I need to stop post whoring.

[l_eclipse_l]

Did you buy the adapter that color-codes the wires for you so you don't have to guess at what is what? It should be very simple if you did. Just hook up all the wires that come off the adapter to the head unit. Then plug in the antenna and put everything back together, and your good to go.

[gthompson97]

Originally Posted by l_eclipse_l

Did you buy the adapter that color-codes the wires for you so you don't have to guess at what is what? It should be very simple if you did. Just hook up all the wires that come off the adapter to the head unit. Then plug in the antenna and put everything back together, and your good to go.

The car harness uses different color wires than the standard wire colors used nowadays. For example, Mitsubishi 12v battery is yellow (normally red) and there is no physical ground wire, it grounds through the metal brackets to hold the radio on, and the speaker wire colors are all f'd up.

[toicy4ya]

Originally Posted by gthompson97

Here's the Mitusbishi wire colors compared to those used today.

http://www.installdr.com/Harnesses/M...shi-Wiring.pdf

Damn I need to stop post whoring.

Actually keep doing so gthompson your very helpful. I did purchase and connect the wires via a harness and I was very careful in making the connections. However I have a question for you in reference to the harness wire guide, if you compare the "L" Pin in the first diagram it says "Power Antenna Turn On - Blue" on the second diagram it says "Do not use". Now my year car is a 99 so which would it be?

Additionally, From the diagrams am I safe to assume that I connect both the red and the yellow wire?

[gthompson97]

Either one of those should work, C or L. Try one and if it doesn't work, try the other. I'd suggest trying C first though.

On your radio, I believe yellow is ignition and red is battery 12v, right? If so, you should connect the red on your radio to the yellow coming from the car, and the yellow on your radio to the blue coming from the car. And then connect the speaker wires in the "Mitsubishi" column in the diagram to the correct ones on your radio, don't go by color though, go by speaker (+/-).

[toicy4ya]

Originally Posted by gthompson97

Either one of those should work, C or L. Try one and if it doesn't work, try the other. I'd suggest trying C first though.

On your radio, I believe yellow is ignition and red is battery 12v, right? If so, you should connect the red on your radio to the yellow coming from the car, and the yellow on your radio to the blue coming from the car. And then connect the speaker wires in the "Mitsubishi" column in the diagram to the correct ones on your radio, don't go by color though, go by speaker (+/-).

Kool, what about the amp? Do I connect the blue/white wire from the radio to both the antenna and the amp lead?

[gthompson97]

Yeah, that should work.

[l_eclipse_l]

Originally Posted by gthompson97

The car harness uses different color wires than the standard wire colors used nowadays. For example, Mitsubishi 12v battery is yellow (normally red) and there is no physical ground wire, it grounds through the metal brackets to hold the radio on, and the speaker wire colors are all f'd up.

The adapter worked for me.

[gthompson97]

Originally Posted by l_eclipse_l

The adapter worked for me.

I know, but I don't think he has the adapter. I know when I got my first eclipse, the radio had been stolen so there was no "stock plug", it was all just bare wire ends, so I got the pleasure of trying to figured out what was what by trial and error, soon to find a diagram explaining the wire colors a couple days later. Still pisses me off to this day.

[toicy4ya]

Originally Posted by gthompson97

I know, but I don't think he has the adapter. I know when I got my first eclipse, the radio had been stolen so there was no "stock plug", it was all just bare wire ends, so I got the pleasure of trying to figured out what was what by trial and error, soon to find a diagram explaining the wire colors a couple days later. Still pisses me off to this day.

Do you mean Wire harness? I did install it via a harness but wanted to confirm the connections.

[gthompson97]

I thought you were in the same boat I was, I had the harness to plug into the CD player, but the other end of the harness was just open wire which I had to splice into the stock wire because I didn't have the stock radio plug. The previous owner must have cut it and put in his own so I had to splice in my harness to make it work, either way it sounds like you got it.

[toicy4ya]

Originally Posted by gthompson97

I thought you were in the same boat I was, I had the harness to plug into the CD player, but the other end of the harness was just open wire which I had to splice into the stock wire because I didn't have the stock radio plug. The previous owner must have cut it and put in his own so I had to splice in my harness to make it work, either way it sounds like you got it.

yea I got it for the most part but I got a sneaky suspicion that one of my wires is incorrect and is draining voltage from my battery. That why when I read, "do not connect the blue/white lead to the power terminal of the auto-antenna. Such connection could cause excessive current drain and malfunction." from the installation manual it kinda caught my eye.

Plus I wanted to confirm whether I was suppose to connect the blue/white wire to both the auto antenna and the amp lead?