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Do you guys know anything about upgraded ECU chips? I heard it is pretty good bang for your buck? Any information would be awesome!
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Re: Proformance Chips

research, there is many posts on here. but to answer your question yes ecu upgrades are phenomenol for the z performance. check out stillen.com and jim wolfe technologies. they both make good ones, its def,.worth it
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research, there is many posts on here. but to answer your question yes ecu upgrades are phenomenol for the z performance. check out stillen.com and jim wolfe technologies. they both make good ones, its def,.worth it
stillen ECU is the JWT ECU.

Ash spec ECU, which Ashley Power's himself sells and Z1 sells is the cheapest ECU upgrade worth looking into.

and yes, WITH a boost controller or boost jets the ECU upgrade can result in a 60hp gain.
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Re: Proformance Chips

I wouldn't recommend getting a chip till you're done getting what ever done to your car that you're going to because the work that has been done to your car has to be taken into account when the chip is programmed to make the most of it.

They have a Romulator for the Z32?
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does ash reburn z31T computers or what??? I'm scared shitless of a romulator program
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does ash reburn z31T computers or what??? I'm scared shitless of a romulator program
he is working on it...

romulator is scary shit man...delerious told me something about hexidecimal and i have had a few convos with Ash and he explains it where i dont understand. i will learn gradually some day but right now, i am getting chips burnt and then take it and getting it dyno tuned professionally.
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Re: Proformance Chips

Im going to get a Jim Wolf ECU in a couple weeks. are there any down sides to this ecu?
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They have a Romulator for the Z32?
yeah, its been renamed Zemulator and its been further upgraded for performance use by Ashley Powers to do more.
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Im going to get a Jim Wolf ECU in a couple weeks. are there any down sides to this ecu?
no but may i ask why you want to spend that much on the ECU when you can get the Ash Spec ECU for half the price?

save yourself some money...trust me, its the same thing. he stands by his work. and everything that has came out of Z1's shop is using this ECU
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Re: Proformance Chips

hex isn't that difficult, you just have to sit down for a while and get your head around the concept of different numbering systems and you're good to go... anyway, i wouldn't use the romulator, and i'm not going to, as i have the power to reprogram, reflash, and reinstall any EPROM program i want for whatever setup i'm running.... no messing with wires, no messing with an s-afc, just a decent wideband o2 sensor with a datalogging capability if so desired, and i'm golden... it's amazing how easy something that sounds so complicated can get with just a few hours of reading...

that is, of course, for the z31 that nobody seems to want or like... for the z32 i'd stick with a professionally programmed chip and pay out the ass for it... like you do for everything else on the z32..
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Re: Proformance Chips

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for the z32 i'd stick with a professionally programmed chip and pay out the ass for it... like you do for everything else on the z32..
HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA...ouch, man! LOL

I'm goin romulator all the way, man...

Unlimited tuning possiblities
instant, real time results
datalogging (I think...)
cheap
It is a bit complicated till ya learn it (I definately don't think it's for everyone) but I'm good with numbers and math (I too have read up on it a bit) so I'll be ok
I already have a laptop so that solves that problem

Just depends on what you're looking for. I wanna be able to get my setup dialed in to the max.

With an ECU you buy from somewhere, you tell them what you have done and they set up the computer for your car. I can't imagine this being the best route when you have a heavily modified or completely custom setup. Sure...if you have a Z32TT (or Z31T...whatever) with an intake, exhaust, boost controller set at 14 psi and wanna add an ECU, getting one from somewhere isn't a bad idea but I just don't think this would work as well for me. With the romulator, I can set it up my self so I KNOW it's to the max. I can't imagine being able to get my setup 102% perfect with a plug and play option like a purchased ECU so I am going to 'make my own'.
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HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA...ouch, man! LOL
its funny how Z31 owners think that its funny because their parts are cheap. it just means there is no competition in the market because not many businesses want to get into a no gain field of work. you have to admit, out of the Z31 owners out there...not many modify in comparison to the Z32. most Z31 owners pick up a Z31 because it is cheap and they hardly can afford to buy a car, let alone modify one. thats about all i have to say about that. i dont know, after skimming different forums i just get tired of the lame post from the average Z31 owner stating "yeah, well thats the beauty of the Z31, parts are cheap". cheap doesnt always mean better ya know...competition is a good thing. makes the few people that are making the part work harder to make it better, making it more expensive when it does become better.

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I'm goin romulator all the way, man...

Unlimited tuning possiblities
instant, real time results
datalogging (I think...)
cheap
Romulator is weak in my opinion...until there is more software to coexist with it, which Ashley Powers is working on, it is overrated.

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Sure...if you have a Z32TT (or Z31T...whatever) with an intake, exhaust, boost controller set at 14 psi and wanna add an ECU, getting one from somewhere isn't a bad idea but I just don't think this would work as well for me. With the romulator, I can set it up my self so I KNOW it's to the max. I can't imagine being able to get my setup 102% perfect with a plug and play option like a purchased ECU so I am going to 'make my own'.
setting up your car to the max isnt always a good idea to drive around everyday. there are safety margins that you need to stay with in to keep your motor from destroying itself.

did you know if you boost higher without changing the ECU you will actually get better performance but you run the risk of detonation on the slightest variation. his is because not letting the ECU that you are boosting this high will cause the A/F ratio to lean out giving it better performance. but is leaning out your A/F good, no. it will eventually destroy your motor, what if it gets colder you and you ahve it tuned on the edge. not safe...this is why there is an ECU in the first place. to keep your prize possession from blowing up in your face...

and for you to tune your system yourself to the degree that you are speaking would take many dyno pulls and hours of tuning. dyno tuning is expensive...and if your doing it yourself dont forget to make a couple 5th gear pulls so you can set the A/F ratio for long cruising in comparison to other gears. many tuners do this because you usually dont do 5th gear pulls on the dyno...

it is a much more cost effective method for someone to buy a S-AFCII and a program from a company and spend a a couple of hours on the dyno fine tuning your performance on the AFC and letting the ECU keep it within most things within safety. this would be in comparison of spending thousands on dynos...

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Do yourself a favor and buy a ECU program from a company...then get a tuning tool that will save settings (S-AFCII) and then get a wide-band O2 sensor wih a digital readout monitor (Can be had for under $300). with these tools you can tune your car to anything you want without having to buy a program and accessories to burn your own chips and risk making the slightest mistake.

there is actually a group buy over on TwinTurbo.net for the wideband set-up i am speaking of above, right now.
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Re: Proformance Chips

I know it's a lil' late, but the JWT ECU's have been known to run a lil' rich on the z31T's...
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I know it's a lil' late, but the JWT ECU's have been known to run a lil' rich on the z31T's...
they run a little rich on the Z32. its for safety measures. they dont want the chance of a motor desroying itself because of their product...

its not overly rich, slightly...call them, they will explain to you why, how, where, when, why...
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