All Motor Or Turbo??????

[98Lud]

98 Prelude SH

I'm thinking wheather i should get a turbo or go for all motor, love the sound and performance of turbo, but what i'm looking for is speed, top-end and allot of horsies, what would you guys do?

personally i want to go with turbo, but if all motor is better, let me know

[honda_racing101]

Thats your choice, not ours. You cant ask us to decide something that is going to cost you tons of money. Its what YOU want.

[iVteC_PoWeR]

Turbo can definitely make more power and is cheaper

[r.j-lo]

all what you want points to turbo.

[Zachp911]

If you want your lude reliable, stay N/A. If you have a daily driver, go turbo.

I'd say N/A and Turbo are about the same when it comes to price though. Running high psi = upgrading engine internals & fuel system which costs lots of money. You'll probably only reach about 215-225whp doing a N/A setup too. Who knows.

Its your choice though.

[iVteC_PoWeR]

I would say BS to ludespeed501s post because a turbo car can be just as reliable as N/A and if you are N/A and dont have the right setup it can be very unreliable...as for the price turbo is still cheaper upgrading internals to withstand high amounts of boost is cheaper than all the N/A parts...now it all depends on how your budget looks like

[Zachp911]

Originally Posted by iVteC_PoWeR

I would say BS to ludespeed501s post because a turbo car can be just as reliable as N/A and if you are N/A and dont have the right setup it can be very unreliable...as for the price turbo is still cheaper upgrading internals to withstand high amounts of boost is cheaper than all the N/A parts...now it all depends on how your budget looks like

Apparently you're an idiot.

Yeah, a turbo setup is reliable at 6-7psi, anything higher is not going to be AS reliable since you'll need to start modifying internals. And I guess you didnt know that a turbo puts more stress on the engine too.

And also, running higher psi requires building the engine, and that costs $$$. Then factor in fuel management, tuning, labor fee's, etc.

A turbo'd car running high psi will never be AS reliable as a N/A built car.

[honda_racing101]

Ludespeed is right. The best build and tune in the world wont make a high boosted car more relable than a well built NA car.

[iVteC_PoWeR]

ok i know f/i puts more stress on the motor ok i see your point but i still have seen people running boost keep the motor just as long as those with n/a

[V T E C H]

Tunning is the back bone of a turboed car. If its done right, it can last a long time, otherwise you will probably end up blowing your engine in under 50k or somthing like that.

[stockprelude]

someday maybe everyone will stop being a bunch of vaginas and start thinking a little about what they are doing to their car. go all motor, a turbo is the easy way out. if you want to have a good performing turbo that is putting out to its max potential you are going to have to change out everything on your motor anyway, you are just gonna be swapping lightweight for stronger parts. NA is so much better as far as im concerned. i love taking my car out and racing those losers with their turbos, or NOS on a totally beat engine and seeing them keep maybe a car length on me. for someone doing work at home, its alot easier to tune your NA by yourself and go take on some V8's for fun. i have a honda because i dont want to think about boosting. with the right stuff a NA is just as powerful and will cost LESS....

[iVteC_PoWeR]

Originally Posted by stockprelude

someday maybe everyone will stop being a bunch of vaginas and start thinking a little about what they are doing to their car. go all motor, a turbo is the easy way out. if you want to have a good performing turbo that is putting out to its max potential you are going to have to change out everything on your motor anyway, you are just gonna be swapping lightweight for stronger parts. NA is so much better as far as im concerned. i love taking my car out and racing those losers with their turbos, or NOS on a totally beat engine and seeing them keep maybe a car length on me. for someone doing work at home, its alot easier to tune your NA by yourself and go take on some V8's for fun. i have a honda because i dont want to think about boosting. with the right stuff a NA is just as powerful and will cost LESS....

OMFG are you serious you think n/a wil make as much power and cost less? now for example if we both had a $5000 budget and you went n/a and i went turbo on a SH i GUARANTEE you i will be making more power

[stockprelude]

when i say NA will produce just as much power i am saying that half of the people out there are too stupid to put the right turbo on their car and all the right components and get it tuned properly. if you want to throw down 3500 on a cheap turbo kit and risk blowing your engine like nothing because you didnt do everything else you are supposed to, go right ahead. but for all intensive purposes you have to build you car up all motor before you put the turbo on if you plan on getting more than 60 hp out of it. its all opinion, and in my opinion anyone who can recommend putting on a turbo for a novice is out of their mind. it is easy to say, "HEY DO THIS....." but have you ever done it or seen it done? i dont know im thinking about putting a jet engine in next, what do you think? people on here have turbo dreams i swear to god. i wouldnt settle for anything less than adding 150hp to a turboed setup. but people like you are happy with crappy so whatever floats you boat.

[DVSracergirl]

its all in how you do it. how much maintainence you want to continue to do and how often.

Turbo is a great way to make insane amounts of power.
Downsides are that most people dont have the money to do it right the first time around with the right components.

N/A can be a very reliable high hp daily driver.

Turbo...you can have a low boost and a high boost setting for when you need or want it.

N/A you have it all the time.

Pistons, rods, sleeving, bearings, valve train, cams, IM, TB, exhaust...all things you need for a good set up on either. anyone should consider motor mount inserts, urethane bushings, a great suspension set up, strut/sway/tie bars.

one thing you need to consider is traction. no matter if you make 200whp or 500whp... traction IS going to be a problem. preludes are famous for not being able to put the power to the ground effectively.

Weve built some really great H22 turbo and H23/vtec turbo set-ups that make well over 300whp daily driven.

i personally built my own N/A H22 222.5whp/166 tq daily driven. I love it. i studied other engine builds, found the parts i wanted and waited till i had everything and did it all. Finding the right combo is key. Tuning is also very important. ive spent many hours on the dyno perfecting every square. My car is extremely sensitive to weather changes....+or- 5 degrees and it doesnt behave the way i think it should. i built my motor very tight. somedays i want to drive it off a cliff because of the way its behaving. somedays i hit myself for thinking that because it performs so well. i take lots of pride in the fact that i run a 13.7 1/4 mile at a 109mph on BFGs. full interior, spare tire and no weight redux. Im an N/A girl....but i know if i ever slapped a turbo on there i would be addicted. Im building a turbo H22 eg drag car to satisfy my turbo needs.

Basically what it comes down to is
1. everyone above was correct. no one is really wrong. If you build it right it will be great.... theres always this N/A vs FI argument... but its a personal preference.
2. What YOU want.
3. what your long term plans are for the car.
4. Ever thought about building a High Comp NOS engine?

[top end ms]

I say stay N/A .. more reliable .. more response .. less crap under the hood .. and prob. cheaper ..