how many of you have this car or have driven it?

[Psman32@af]

HA HA I get to do the inagural post.
I love this car. My dad has a 1997 Lincoln Towncar. I'm not sure how to describe the color because it changes from where u are looking. It is a signature series, or the higher of the two trims. It has a 4.6 Liter V-8. The same is found in the Mustang. For as much as I know, all Towncars use Mustang engines. I personally have a 1989 Lincoln Towncar. It has a 5.0 Liter V-8. It has a silver/gray two tone paint with a gray canvas top. It is a cartier series which means it is the highest trim of that year. engine was rebuilt at 165,000 miles and trans was rebuilt around there as well. The car has 199,000 miles on it now. Towncars are quicker and faster than most think. I had mine at 95 mph and still in third gear out of 4. I'm not sure about 0-60 but I have beaten a few people and embarressed a Camero RS+ the other day. Well thats all for me for now.
Chris.

[igor@af]

oh wow.
I like the new Towncars, they are big
and powerful too.

[Psman32@af]

this is my dad and my own opinion. The last of the true Lincoln looks was in 1989. We both feel that after that they look more like a different divsion. The new ones arent that strong with that whimpy little 4.6 either (own opinion) The new ones also appears smaller then does my model year. Mine has an estimated 250 but I'm not sure because i don't know the compression ratio.

[MaxRX7]

much pimpper than a Deville:smoker2:

[MercCougarXR7]

Whats in the Camaro RS? That anemic N/A 3.8L? Well no wonder. But, I know how the panther platform performs with the 5.0. It does SOUND fast, but they are complete of the line. True, they can whip past people pretty quick in a pass, but they are by no means sports cars - even with a rebuilt 5.0L (which is rated at about 170 HP for that year).
And, while the 1991 and newer Towncars use 4.6L's, they didn't receive the mustang heads (where the power is made) until 2001 along with its cousins the Vic and Marquis. I agree that Lincoln threw away some nice lines in 1991 when they changed body styles, but you have to admit the new ones have a beautiful set of lines that are befitting of the name Lincoln. Have you guys seen the spy pics of the 2004 Town car? The thing has a HUGE hood on it, which accomodates the optional V12 .

[Heep]

While I was working as a mech. at a Ford dealer, one of the other mechs and I took a customer's 2000 Town Car out on the obligatory road test. Weehoo! We got the tail out on that baby so many times

[enginerd]

A friend of mine totally pimped out his 83' Town Car. Supercharged 3.8, 3 piece wheels, shift kit. Some things I don't understand.

[Psman32@af]

If my car didn't have the problem that all Ford 5.0 V8's did, i would defintally have done more to my car, like a new paint job, a nice dual exhaust, intake and a few other upgrades. Id get that thing up its 330 ft-lb's it has now. Too bad that it has that engine problem and its gonan die soon . Oh well my next car is gonna be free so im not complaining. If anyone wants me to elaborate on the engine problem, just ask.

[MercCougarXR7]

Sure! I'd like to know what kind of problem that 'All' 5.0's have...

I know they get weak when old, but from what I've seen out of the 302 - it takes a beating before it'll blow. My brother was looking for an excuse to put a new 5.0 in his Mustang, and decided to lay a brick on the pedal and wait for it to blow. He did ruin the engine, but it did not blow. That was a funny night !

[x5lad]

THE TOWN CAR IS BEAUTIFUL AND THE COLOUR U R TALKIGN ABOUT IT IS CALELD HARLEQUIN. WHICH APPEARS TO BE DIFFERENT FROM DIFFERENT SIDES (':FLASH:')

[Euro19]

The current Town Car is nice but I´ve ride in the old one and it feels like a boat, but it´s very quiet. How are sales going for this car? I think ok.

[SamDogg]

I'd like to know the specific engine problems that the 5.0 engines experienced?? i have a 1990 towncar signature series..i just had a whole new engine and tranny put in it and it runs like brand new..im sure it will go another 170,000 miles..it is gettin pimpped out like no other and i will keep it alive as long as i can..this is the best car they ever produced in my opiinion..the 5.0 was known for head gaskets blowing but the engine will withstand significant abuse before this occurs.............i think that puttin the 4.6 in the lincoln was a good idea because it is a lighter engine and it produces more hp..but there is nothing wrong wit a good 5.0 .....did i mention im 15??

[Psman32@af]

Sorry i didn't respond sooner, i kinda forgot about this thread. Ok they problem is not with all 5.0's i was just not exactly happy when I heard the problem was very common. Its actually an trans problem with the AOD, the trans the 5.0's came with.

Originally posted by SamDogg
I'd like to know the specific engine problems that the 5.0 engines experienced?? i have a 1990 towncar signature series..i just had a whole new engine and tranny put in it and it runs like brand new..im sure it will go another 170,000 miles..it is gettin pimpped out like no other and i will keep it alive as long as i can..this is the best car they ever produced in my opiinion..the 5.0 was known for head gaskets blowing but the engine will withstand significant abuse before this occurs.............i think that puttin the 4.6 in the lincoln was a good idea because it is a lighter engine and it produces more hp..but there is nothing wrong wit a good 5.0 .....did i mention im 15??

The problem was the trans was putting back pressure on the engine and that destroyed the thrust washer in about 20,000 miles. This cause the whole crank to have abotu an inch of play. Because of the pressure, the crank was always pushed forward causing the counter-weights on the flywheel to hit the block and heat up the bearing. This will cause the bearings to seize and the engine to stop turning, and this would happen while driving, and it would not appear on the temp gauage.

But I disagree about the 4.6. I think that was a big mistake. They may put out more power according to Ford, but the 5.0's were underrated, that is the only way I can explain beating the cars I did. Also, the 4.6 makes nothing for torque compared to the 5.0 At the time the 89 was made, power and torque was measured at the wheels. My linocln was rated at 270 ft-lbs at the wheels. The 4.6 has that much at the crank.

[MercCougarXR7]

It appears to me, that you have no freaking clue as to what you are talking about.

You may have seen this once as an isolated event, but for all my years of experience with Ford products using the AOD, and my knowledge of HUNDREDS of other owners of the same product, this is the FIRST time I've EVER heard of what you described.

If you say that every 20,000 miles the engines need replacing cause' the AOD tranny screws it up, I guess my 2 cars equiped with AOD's should be on their 6'th engines.

And as for the 'mistake' of the 4.6?

1 - more fuel efficient
2 - less emissions
3 - makes 235hp stock in the current panther platform (CV/GM/TC)
4 - makes over 300 ft. lbs. stock.
5 - has the ability to take SERIOUS modding.

Good Day, eh!

[Psman32@af]

Actually, I talked to engine and tranny shop's around me and about the time my Lincoln came out, they had many Lincolns in the shops for the same problem that I had. For about half a year to a year, they had no idea why they had the problems they had. Maybe its only common around here or common to a plant that some of the parts came from that were sold here or soemthing like that. i dont know about the current 4.6 thats in the Lincoln, but I know that the 2000 and earlier models were rated at 270 ft-lbs. Also based on expierence my 89 5.0 Lincoln got just as good and most of the time better gas mileage than my dads 97 4.6 Lincoln. Based on what I've seen and from expierence, i'll take the 5.0 over the 4.6. I tend to get a little emotional when posting, I dont think it was a big mistake, but I think it would have been wiser to stay with the 5.0.